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OCTADE » 🌐 2026-04-04 / 2026-04-04
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"potential distinctions between "paradise" and "heaven"."

Paradise is a place in heaven. The original design was for it to extend into the earth among the orbit of earthly rulers who would have direct fellowship with the supreme Lord above. That is what the Hebrew 'gannon edan' signifies ... a garden of nations.

When Jesus told the thief he would be with him in Paradise, he was conveying the man directly to the central district of the heavenly realm where Christ himself would visit. That one act of faith by the thief elevated him above all the kings of the world. A real deathbed confession ...

2 Corinthians 12:4
Revelation 2:7

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Daniel Johnson » 🌐 2026-04-04
@ossobuffo@deacon.social

@octade @spaceraser I think, rather, that given the Greek concept of hades being the abode of all the dead, both good and evil, many would think of Paradise as corresponding to the Fields of Elysium, where the blessed dwell, as opposed to Tartarus, the pit into which the damned are cast. But the Christian view of Paradise surpasses these Hellenic concepts, because Christ has conquered all of hades, and given all its inhabitants the opportunity to arise out of it to the Paradise of the living. And in this Edenic state, all have the same access to Christ, and thereby the Father.

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OCTADE » 🌐 2026-04-04
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"Christ has conquered all of hades, and given all its inhabitants the opportunity to arise out of it to the Paradise of the living."

Agreed. Apokatastasis.

"And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church [legislature, ekklesia]; and the gates of hell [hades, sheol] shall not prevail against it."

Notice the gates of the heavenly city in Paradise are always open, no more to be shut:

"And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel: ... And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it. And the gates of it shall not be shut at all by day: for there shall be no night there."