OCTADE

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NAME : Raze
ABOUT : https://soc.octade.net/octade/p/1738730010.732958
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SLOGAN : Speak not with words. Speak with work product.



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OCTADE »
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ABOUT

Name: Byrl Raze Buckbriar (call me Raze).

Likes: Interested in WORK PRODUCT, inspiration, faith, truth, beauty, nature, self-improvement, encouragement, edification, praiseworthy things, how-tos, beautiful things, artwork, fluid poems, and general human kindness and achievement. See my profile hashtags for technical subjects of interest.

Disclaimer: If I follow your account it does not imply agreement with your views.

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OCTADE »
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"It's a pity both sides can't lose."

~ Henry Kissinger

@infostorm@a.gup.pe

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    Want Change? Work Together 🔁 »
    @freeschool@qoto.org

    #Internet #Privacy via #LittleSnitch / #OpenSnitch [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

    Monitor + Give permission for each In / Out network connection (literally)

    BEFORE contact similar to a

    via / ...

    Linux github.com/evilsocket/opensnit

    @littlesnitch / obdev.at/blog/manifesto

    macOS en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_S (proprietary?)

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      OCTADE »
      @octade@soc.octade.net

      Illuminant - A NNTP-based Fediverse Server

      This is cool.

      It is a Fediverse server you can use with a newsreader client like Thunderbird.

      Demo: https://illuminant.asjo.org/
      Profile: https://illuminant.asjo.org/user/asjo
      Source: https://koldfront.dk/git/illuminant/

      @infostorm@a.gup.pe @usenet@a.gup.pe @usenet@lemmy.ml

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        Michael Engel »
        @me_@sueden.social

        @octade @infostorm @usenet@a.gup.pe @usenet@lemmy.ml

        Interesting, thanks for the links!

        Just a quick remark – using koldfront.dk/git/illuminant/ (without "www") doesn't work for me, koldfront.dk/git/illuminant/ does, however.

          ⋆★⋆Ali⋆★⋆ »
          @alipunk@thecanadian.social

          My whole body is bruised 😭 i haven't felt this sore since my last baby

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          OCTADE »
          @octade@soc.octade.net

          What has the world come to? Now even newborns are roughing up their moms. Must be one of those Canadian lumberjack babies.

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            Modern information-based anxiety comes from following and believing in the current and historical events as advertised by those declaring said events. When you believe in, repeat, and opine on these event narratives, you compound that anxiety and excite it in others, bringing them into bondage to the same stories and fantasies.

            Most events advertised by media and government are fiction. What you see on the Internet and TV is not real. What experts, foundations, agencies, governments, and nonprofits say is never the truth. None of it is real. It is all agitprop. It is all agenda-driven manipulation. None of it has ever been real. There is always an angle or agenda behind the way the information is presented. Those images and sounds and slogans and speeches are NOT reality. It is a false reality offered for you to buy into.

            Reality is between you and your neighbor. How you treat your neighbor ... whether or not you treat your neighbor as equal in dignity and rights ... or whether or not you use your fears of government stories as an excuse to hate and abuse your neighbor ... which is why they give you their stories in the first place. By stoking division they can rule you, fleece you, control you, and profit from you.

            In the Game of Thrones the Tyrion character was used to tell us who rules:

            "What unites people? Armies? Gold? Flags? No. It’s stories. There's nothing in the world more powerful than a good story. Nothing can stop it. No enemy can defeat it. And who has a better story than Bran the Broken? The boy who fell from a high tower and lived… He's our memory. The keeper of all our stories. The wars, weddings, births, massacres, famines, our triumphs, our defeats, our past. Who better to lead us into the future?"

            When you believe someone's stories, that person rules over you. The person who crafts the stories that you take for reality has control of your mind and your life. Whoever crafts your reality is your master. They keep ramping up the anxiety to stunt critical thinking and invoke emotional responses and emotional investment in narratives crafted to steer people into doing their bidding.

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              Saugas »
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              @OCTADE
              I agree. The real life we live is with our neighbors, co-workers, friends, and of course our families.

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                OCTADE »
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                Amen and amen! Preach!

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                  The Mathematics of Secrets »
                  @MathOfSecrets@mathstodon.xyz

                  Okay, so about Microsoft's latest announcement. I'm going to link you to Scott Aaronson's blog for a nice FAQ, but I think this bit is the tl;dr: "*If* Microsoft’s claim stands, then topological qubits have finally reached some sort of parity with where more traditional qubits were 20-30 years ago.[...] Topological qubits can win if, and only if, they turn out to be so much more reliable that they leapfrog the earlier approaches [...]"

                  scottaaronson.blog/?p=8669

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                    The Mathematics of Secrets »
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                    @octade ... That's a joke, right?

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                      OCTADE »
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                      The joke is the unfalsifiable quantum mechanics claims behind these pseudoscience 'quantum' computers. It is the ultimate ideological authoritarianism based on belief and authority and gravitas instead of replication.

                      This former post elaborates on how the advertising cycle mentally enslaves people to pseudoscience and political agitprop:

                      https://soc.octade.net/octade/p/1740365507.346848

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                        OCTADE »
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                        This is a candidate for one of the best films ever produced. It is worth watching on your next classic movie night.

                        The Wind and the Lion | Full Movie with Sean Connery
                        https://youtu.be/D-In3mEfBxg

                        This movie was filmed before the normalization of brainless Hollywood portrayals of all foreigners as mindless drones. It showed an era of mutual respect and honor codes between adversaries instead of jingoistic 'light of the world' self-worship.

                        No spoilers. It is too good for that.

                        @infostorm@a.gup.pe @movies@a.gup.pe @classics@a.gup.pe @film@a.gup.pe

                        Bearded Berber Sultan with black and red head dress, portrayed by Sean Conner in the movie, The Wind and the Lion.

                        Alt...Bearded Berber Sultan with black and red head dress, portrayed by Sean Conner in the movie, The Wind and the Lion.

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                          /mərˈkjʊriəl/ »
                          @writeblankspace@plasmatrap.com

                          I think Fedi feels very grounded and realistic. There aren't as many emo depressed aesthetic posts as there are genuine mental health posts and people who support each other for it.

                          Truly, it is a safe space.

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                          /mərˈkjʊriəl/ »
                          @writeblankspace@plasmatrap.com

                          death mention [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                          I mean I'm not making fun of emo depressed aesthetics (honestly, they're cool sometimes as long as they don't make suicide jokes — and thus I'm guilty of making them too) but the genuine mh posts do feel more real and comforting somehow, than memes that almost romanticise depression.

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                          OCTADE »
                          @octade@soc.octade.net

                          The Internet is causing depression.

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                          /mərˈkjʊriəl/ »
                          @writeblankspace@plasmatrap.com

                          @octade@soc.octade.net fair enough, but in some ways this interconnectedness can make you feel less lonely in ways

                          I love computers, for example. I find it sad (okay, not depressing) how I can't really enthuse about it with anyone else besides one-sided yapping irl. Same with linguistics. On the internet, I can bounce ideas with like-minded people, and even those who know more than me.

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                            OCTADE »
                            @octade@soc.octade.net

                            I used too few words so my point isn't clear. Your stated use here is a good thing. Discussing ideas and having a sounding board doesn't cause depression, and I apologize if my remark seemed to prop up such an idea. I was alluding to the news cycle and propaganda causing depression--something I wrote in a longer post:

                            https://soc.octade.net/octade/p/1740365507.346848

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                              /mərˈkjʊriəl/ »
                              @writeblankspace@plasmatrap.com

                              @octade@soc.octade.net Oh yes, the news cycle is in fact depressing. I try to avoid news whenever I'm online.

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                                Leonard Ritter »
                                @lritter@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                master: welcome to my Smart Home

                                student: wow. how is the light controlled?

                                master: with this on-off switch

                                student: i don't see a motor to close the blinds

                                master: there is none

                                student: where is the server located?

                                master: it is not needed

                                student: excuse me but what is "Smart" about all of this?

                                master: everything.

                                in this moment, the student was enlightened

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                                sonja dolinsek »
                                @sonjdol@ohai.social

                                Hello dear academic community, I am looking for research, novels, non-fiction, media reports, etc. on "living underground", as in resistance, hiding in repressive regimes, etc. Any material and any region.

                                Maybe more people are interested in this topic...
                                @socialscience @histodons @academicchatter

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                                  Yakyu Night Owl »
                                  @YakyuNightOwl@mastodon.world

                                  @sonjdol @socialscience @histodons @academicchatter The works of Milan Kundera paint a picture of Czech life.

                                  Matthew Collin wrote both "This Is Serbia Calling: Rock 'N' Roll Radio and Belgrade's Underground Resistance" (2001) and "Guerrilla Radio: Rock 'N' Roll Radio and Serbia's Underground Resistance" (2002) about B92.

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                                    OCTADE »
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                                    @socialscience@a.gup.pe @histodons@a.gup.pe @academicchatter@a.gup.pe

                                    I would ask the Christians in Gaza how they have been surviving for 70 years. There are a few Palestinian Christians who now live in the USA. They would be good first-hand sources of information.

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                                      Eveline Sulman 🟥 🇳🇱🇪🇺🇺🇦 »
                                      @EvelineSulman@akademienl.social

                                      @sonjdol @socialscience @histodons @academicchatter We at VU Amsterdam and Protestantse Theologische Universiteit Utrecht are making a volume on religious minorities. Editor will be Bernhard Reitsma.

                                      Very interesting stuff, very various solutions how to be a minority.

                                        JW Prince of CPH, Radicalized »
                                        @jwcph@helvede.net

                                        @sonjdol @socialscience @histodons @academicchatter Did anyone mention "Walkaway" by @pluralistic? I would say it qualifies.

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                                          OCTADE »
                                          @octade@soc.octade.net

                                          "The secret of lawlessness is that lawlessness is disguised as righteousness." ~ Martin Zender


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                                            OCTADE »
                                            @octade@soc.octade.net

                                            The print Yellow Pages are still a thing. One research firm said that the paper Yellow Pages were used by customers over 3 billion times in one year.

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                                            Paul Wermer, CC BY-NC-SA 4.0 »
                                            @PaulWermer@sfba.social

                                            @octade
                                            Where does one find them?

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                                              OCTADE »
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                                              Hard copies: https://www.therealyellowpages.com

                                              Or DexMedia might also ship them to your region if you have a land line.

                                              In my area they mail them to certain neighborhoods where the geriatric boomer brigades and the hippy generation are known to still reside. The last place I lived 4 years ago they still delivered them every year. In my new place they don't deliver to my neighborhood. For everyone else you need to order them, and they are only available for certain areas.

                                              I surmise that the print phone books will never be completely extinct. They are critical infrastructure if the data grid goes down in some disaster. There are still millions of active copper phone lines across the country, and the way they were buried, it should be another two generations before all that copper corrodes. I have lines that are 50 years old and still in good condition. It is just sitting there, waiting in case it is ever needed.


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                                                OCTADE »
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                                                If you need three hots and a cot, this is a clever way to get your ticket.

                                                  blaue_Fledermaus »
                                                  @blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io

                                                  Política

                                                  Lula às vezes que parece vive no mundo de 20 anos atrás.

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                                                    OCTADE »
                                                    @octade@soc.octade.net

                                                    Lula is on to something. Sign me up, hombre. I want a trip to 20 years ago on my way to the final stop of 1980.

                                                      Timothy R. Butler »
                                                      @trbutler@mastodon.faithtree.social

                                                      I don’t know anyone who thinks preaches values. He has some opinions that align, but I’ve never heard him claim to be a Christian or anything like that. x.com/KINGV0NBURNER/status/189

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                                                        Timothy R. Butler »
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                                                        I admired before certain political circles thought it was cool (and when others decided it wasn’t). Why? His entrepreneurial genius at , , , etc. Same with — they are Edisons or Galileos of our time. I don’t have to agree with someone 💯 to appreciate gifts. I wish Jobs had been a Christian, I pray Musk would become one — but I can see someone I don’t think is the epitome of morality and still appreciate creative genius.

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                                                          Ω 🌍 Gus Posey »
                                                          @Gustodon@mas.to

                                                          @trbutler What's it like to be deeply evil?

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                                                            Timothy R. Butler »
                                                            @trbutler@mastodon.faithtree.social

                                                            @Gustodon Not sure what to make of this odd question.

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                                                              Ω 🌍 Gus Posey »
                                                              @Gustodon@mas.to

                                                              @trbutler "I wish Jobs had been a Christian."

                                                              This among other statements suggests that you're comfortable with the destructive effects of your atavistic faith and the distinct ties Musk has to the rise of a fascist theocracy.

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                                                                Timothy R. Butler »
                                                                @trbutler@mastodon.faithtree.social

                                                                @Gustodon I'm afraid you're the one making sweeping, stereotyping assumptions, while I was making a nuanced distinction. I mused after someone wrongly tried to suggest Musk was some sort of figure Christians look up to for his morals. I never have and MANY of us never have. (Yes some do and that's problematic.) I personally don't think there is going to be a fascist theocracy and think people are doing a disservice to victims of actual fascism by saying there is going to be, but I also have vocally called out when any administration misappropriates bits of Christianity for power. I've done that repeatedly, including with Trump.

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                                                                  Ω 🌍 Gus Posey »
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                                                                  @trbutler Your faith is the framework that made American conservatism possible. That alone is unforgivable.

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                                                                    Timothy R. Butler »
                                                                    @trbutler@mastodon.faithtree.social

                                                                    @Gustodon It also made American and European liberalism possible -- and clasicall liberalism/libertarianism possible, too -- historically speaking. And the present administration isn't even conservative. If it makes you feel better, though, just to shout and accuse incorrectly, I'm glad I could make your day better. Not even saying that sarcastically.

                                                                      Jordon »
                                                                      @jordonr@mstdn.starnix.network

                                                                      @trbutler Conservatism isn’t explicitly Christian, but somehow been equated politically. Anything that’s lacks Jesus Christ isn’t Christian.

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                                                                        Timothy R. Butler »
                                                                        @trbutler@mastodon.faithtree.social

                                                                        @jordonr Amen, brother. I most definitely agree.

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                                                                          OCTADE »
                                                                          @octade@soc.octade.net

                                                                          @trbutler@faithtree.social

                                                                          Amen. And anything giving us a fake Jesus is also not Christian. Some sects are devoted to their own Jesus 2.0 version.

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                                                                            OCTADE »
                                                                            @octade@soc.octade.net

                                                                            He is an occultist who worships a Spinozan deity. Not my opinion; he said it himself in an interview years ago.

                                                                            Every bit of attention you give him, positive or negative, only helps him continue his shenanigans and get paid to boot.

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                                                                            OCTADE »
                                                                            @octade@soc.octade.net

                                                                            Maybe he means the values of the occult hierarchy within the Christian Church.

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                                                                              Timothy R. Butler »
                                                                              @trbutler@mastodon.faithtree.social

                                                                              @octade Not sure what you mean.

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                                                                                OCTADE »
                                                                                @octade@soc.octade.net

                                                                                The Church system is infested with occultism and occult teachings. Revelation calls it a cage filled with every unclean and hateful bird. Luther called it the Tyranny of Nimrod and Babylon. The reformation-era expositors taught that the enemy is in the Church, not outside it. Luther was adamant about this and devoted copious words to the subject.

                                                                                Musk worships a Spinozan deity in line with that taught by Christian occultists, Platonists, Hermetecists, Dualists, Deists, and other "Christian" blasphemers who have infiltrated the Church and many other institutions with their occult ideas. Think:

                                                                                nomina sacra
                                                                                word of power
                                                                                manifesting your reality
                                                                                key of knowledge
                                                                                brotherhood of man
                                                                                kabbalah
                                                                                freemasonry
                                                                                prosperity gospel

                                                                                etc., etc.

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                                                                                Cliff »
                                                                                @cliffwade@infosec.exchange

                                                                                How do you drink your coffee and/or tea?

                                                                                Select all that apply!

                                                                                Please BOOST for maximum exposure to the

                                                                                Coffee - Black:202
                                                                                Coffee - With sugar:22
                                                                                Coffee - With cream(er):76
                                                                                Coffee - With both sugar and cream(er):53
                                                                                Tea - Nothing in it:188
                                                                                Tea - With sugar:47
                                                                                Tea - With cream(er):31
                                                                                Tea - With both sugar and cream(er):24
                                                                                I don't drink either!:21
                                                                                Other -> Comment and let's discuss it!:34

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                                                                                  OCTADE »
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                                                                                  I see tears were excluded from your morning menu.

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                                                                                    Cliff »
                                                                                    @cliffwade@infosec.exchange

                                                                                    @octade Tears in your coffee or tea? LOL

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                                                                                      OCTADE »
                                                                                      @octade@soc.octade.net

                                                                                      I feel rambunctious and snooty this morning. If 'sploot over coffee cauldron' was an emotion I would be emoting.

                                                                                        Tom »
                                                                                        @tripplehelix@fosstodon.org

                                                                                        @cliffwade I buy single origin dark roast beans. Black is the best way to enjoy them.

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                                                                                          OCTADE »
                                                                                          @octade@soc.octade.net

                                                                                          Seriously, I do all of the above except 'either'. When I run out of milk and/or creamer, I refuse to buy more for a day or two, then drink tea and coffee without milk or creamer. When I run out of sugar I try to delay buying more for as many days as I can stand going without some sweetness. So I actually end up doing all the things to my morning jitter juice.

                                                                                            Mal »
                                                                                            @malmorrow@mastodon.africa

                                                                                            @cliffwade Masala tea with milk and of course sugar, and Ouma rusks for dipping. Bit of an indulgence, I don’t do that every day.

                                                                                              Anne at Millrace »
                                                                                              @annehargreaves@ioc.exchange

                                                                                              @cliffwade You missed out coffee with milk

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                                                                                                Cliff »
                                                                                                @cliffwade@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                @annehargreaves You would choose "creamer" in this case.

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                                                                                                  Spencer »
                                                                                                  @spencersb@mastodon.social

                                                                                                  @cliffwade coffee is a variety. Sometimes black, sometimes milk, although I do regularly make lattes and other espresso drinks.

                                                                                                  Tea it's usually just the tea itself, green tea though I do like to add honey.

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                                                                                                    OCTADE »
                                                                                                    @octade@soc.octade.net

                                                                                                    I like my coffee brewed so strong that you can float a horseshoe on top of it.


                                                                                                      T2R »
                                                                                                      @T2R@infosec.exchange

                                                                                                      @cliffwade I don't drink coffee or tea. They taste bad.

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                                                                                                        blaue_Fledermaus »
                                                                                                        @blaue_Fledermaus@mstdn.io

                                                                                                        Faith/Christianity

                                                                                                        Sometimes looking at the current happenings, the thought crosses my mind "I wish I could go back in time and ask Jesus and/or the apostles for advice in person".
                                                                                                        Then I catch myself and remember that my faith is based on Jesus being resurrected and being present NOW through the Holy Spirit, I shouldn't need to go back in time to ask and receive advice from Him.

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                                                                                                          OCTADE »
                                                                                                          @octade@soc.octade.net

                                                                                                          The Father is present, too. Remember, the temple at Jerusalem was destroyed. So now his presence is with us instead of in the stone temple.

                                                                                                          We can do no good thing without God doing it through us. Man is so puny. Yet so many think otherwise.

                                                                                                          Matt Knight »
                                                                                                          @matt@mastodon.knight.fyi

                                                                                                          Fun fact: if your email address has a + sign in, you're going to have a very bad time with Chase bank.

                                                                                                          One of my accounts has an old email address with a + sign in. I get an email (to my new address) once a month saying my email address is incorrect. Yes, ironic.

                                                                                                          Only ~25% of their staff can even _find_ that email address on my account. None can remove it as the removal form says it's an invalid email address format. I've spent 3 years trying to fix this with them.

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                                                                                                            OCTADE »
                                                                                                            @octade@soc.octade.net

                                                                                                            I do banking with small, local banks and credit unions. Problem solved for me.

                                                                                                            TheDragon 🔥 »
                                                                                                            @TheDragon@hachyderm.io

                                                                                                            @matt do you have an equivalent to the financial ombudsman?

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                                                                                                              Matt Knight »
                                                                                                              @matt@mastodon.knight.fyi

                                                                                                              @TheDragon not that I think would have any teeth in a situation like this 😔

                                                                                                                JulieR »
                                                                                                                @abetterjulie@wandering.shop

                                                                                                                Been a bit since I did an abstract line doodle. I'd forgotten how much these help me relax.

                                                                                                                Thick lined geometric doodle filled in with bright colors. I thought I saw a person on their knees, but others might pull something different from it. That's the beauty of abstract doodling, imo.

                                                                                                                Alt...Thick lined geometric doodle filled in with bright colors. I thought I saw a person on their knees, but others might pull something different from it. That's the beauty of abstract doodling, imo.

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                                                                                                                  OCTADE »
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                                                                                                                  Do you remember test patterns?

                                                                                                                  4K-Autism Calming Sensory: Relaxing Music
                                                                                                                  https://youtu.be/yrAFXphbwgg

                                                                                                                  Abstract Liquids! V - 7! 12 Hours 4K Screensaver for Meditation. Paint in Water
                                                                                                                  https://youtu.be/L3Dp4oGkn3k?

                                                                                                                  1984 More Television Test Patterns
                                                                                                                  (mute the audio and relax)
                                                                                                                  https://youtu.be/l05OCJFjzFY

                                                                                                                  Old Test Patterns-IDs From Print - '50s-'60s
                                                                                                                  https://youtu.be/NS9uojwaN7E

                                                                                                                  https://youtu.be/IIqtuupvdWg

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                                                                                                                  Rev. Charles Browning »
                                                                                                                  @FrChazzz@mastodon.social

                                                                                                                  of the day: When discuss “divine inspiration” we tend to not really consider “genre.” Like, saying Job is a work of fiction will upset a number of biblical literalists. But this assumes that God can’t “breathe” through a work of fiction?

                                                                                                                  The book of is likely to be a kind of ancient drama, written in symbolic poetic prose. It’s not a step-by-step guide for the future. To deny its genre is to risk denying God the full breadth of His inspirational work.

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                                                                                                                    blaue_Fledermaus »
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                                                                                                                    @FrChazzz
                                                                                                                    As if who created the whole universe would have creativity problems.

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                                                                                                                      OCTADE »
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                                                                                                                      There was a man named Job. But the book of Job is not about that man named Job. Job is a symbol or totem being used to tell us something at a much higher level.

                                                                                                                      The same with Abraham. There was a man named Abraham who married a woman named Sarah. But the story of Abraham as written in the Bible is not about that ancient Abraham. It is taking the ancient Abraham and using him as a character to invoke an Abraham yet to come. It is about a FUTURE Abraham. Both Jesus and Paul say so ...

                                                                                                                      [Paul says] "But he who was of the bondwoman was born after the flesh; but he of the freewoman was by promise. Which things are an ALLEGORY: for these are the two covenants; the one from the mount Sinai, which gendereth to bondage, which is Agar."

                                                                                                                      Take careful note how Paul says the story of Abraham is ALLEGORY of the followers of Christ, the New Abraham that Paul is helping Christ to create at that very time.

                                                                                                                      Hagar is Israel after the Flesh, under bondage to the Law of Mount Sinai. Sarah is the mother of the New Jerusalem, the Israel of all nations born after the Spirit. Thus Abraham was divided into two seeds, one earthly, and one spiritual, and the one would be at odds with the other, as foretold to Eve and the Serpent. So it is the spiritual seed of Abraham that enters the kingdom to come, and the fleshly seed that must be put to death:

                                                                                                                      "Ye must be born again!"

                                                                                                                      "Ye must be born of water and of spirit ..."

                                                                                                                      What flowed from the side of Jesus onto the earth? Water and blood.

                                                                                                                      "The life (spirit) of flesh is in the blood."

                                                                                                                      It has been in front of our faces all these centuries, but most have not seen because they did not heed the warnings about interpreting the scripture with vain fables and false histories:

                                                                                                                      "Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith: so do."

                                                                                                                      "But refuse profane and old wives' fables, and exercise thyself rather unto godliness."

                                                                                                                      "And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."

                                                                                                                      "Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth."

                                                                                                                      "For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty."

                                                                                                                      "Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye."

                                                                                                                      (I have been drafting a homile set on this subject.)

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