retro
@retro@soc.octade.net
Any thoughts on Toki Pona?
Anyone who uses anime memes should be required to write the captions and alt text in Toki Pona.
@rl_dane Hadn’t heard of it before but looking it up is super interesting! Curious to see where this conversation goes…
Do you think computer messages could be in this language, with byte codes for words instead of sequences of character codes, and translated into e.g. English by the interface? Might be an odd idea, but I dislike embedding English ASCII text into software of mine which is supposed to be universal (e.g. in the #FoundationProject ).
Algorithmically interpreting toki pona would be an absolute nightmare, methink.
"Toki pona" itself could mean (good|simple) (language|word|speech)
So, depending on context, saying "Toki Pona" could mean referring to the language itself, or saying that you had a pleasant conversation with someone, or someone's speech is simple, or the way someone speaks is friendly, etc...
Pertinent dictionary definitions:
> toki
> VERB to communicate, say, speak, say, talk, use language, think
>
> pona
> ADJECTIVE good, positive, useful; friendly, peaceful; simple
Perhaps the simplest solution would be to use a bytecode that has very concrete definitions in the top five languages spoken: English, Mandarin, Hindi, Spanish, and Arabic.
At some point I'll need error items to describe more than just one of these 16 categories.
@rl_dane It's a fun game, as a real language it wouldn't be able to stay "clean" enough to stay what it is for long. It would mutate and change really fast, and split off into a much more complex language with way more rules and grammar, and a purist gang of people clinging on to the original thought. So fun idea to getting started playing with a very simplified language, not something that would be viable as a "real" international language, at least not at the same time as staying in its pure form as it is now. People crave being able to express themselves, and things would change a lot. I also think it's a bit of a too simple langauge to really get things feeling good, and by being so simple in theory it's that much harder to actually use. I think esperanto and viossa gets that more right, it feels more like something that is meant to mutate and evolve.
I see toki pona more as kind of a meditation exercise than a language really meant for communication.
> I see toki pona more as kind of a meditation exercise than a language really meant for communication.
Yes, that seems to be the intention. Kind of like a positive "newspeak" that tries to give you an exercise that would make it more difficult to be excessively negative, etc.
I think the written langauge is very interesting, too.
@rl_dane I think there are more different written languages for it, mostly I've just seen it written with latin letters like everything else though. I don't know, it never really interested me much, the rules are too simple, there are too few words to actually say real things, so you end up with endless long phrases, since it on purpose is not standardised you keep having to guess on the internal state and social hints of someone you are speaking to, it's something that is no fun for a person on the spectrum really.
Here's the chat link.
HairyLarryLand Fluxer Invite Link
https://fluxer.gg/YohSeh7c
Now listening to Something Blue.
Chat here.
HairyLarryLand Fluxer Invite Link
https://fluxer.gg/YohSeh7c
or on Gamer+ in this thread.
@craigoverend @retro @cypherpunk Dang I think I saw the rendering bug on Linux once too. Is every time? Having create in the File menu is a great idea! Maybe a separate one for a new p2p site or a new file in your default site? I was thinking if adding it to the welcome page beside the link to make a new app.
The blank canvas is all I get every time I run the app.
@craigoverend @retro @cypherpunk @agregore @peersky @akhileshthite There's also been some bittorrent attempts. We have a matrix channel with some folks here: https://matrix.to/#/%23decentralized-browsers:matrix.org
I am looking at agregore browser.
Question: what would be a quick onramp to share a directory of files or browse a remote directory of files using a decentralized protocol? Which protocol might be simplest to set up and configure?
My idea is to avoid having to study another programming language or DSL to use a new tool.
@retro @mauve @craigoverend @cypherpunk @agregore @peersky
I would suggest hyper:// protocol
You can use these simple APIs in both Agregore and PeerSky to publish the content to DWeb.
https://github.com/AgregoreWeb/agregore-browser/blob/master/docs/Fetch-Hyper.md
https://github.com/p2plabsxyz/peersky-browser/blob/main/docs/P2P.md
@retro @mauve @craigoverend @cypherpunk @agregore @peersky
In PeerSky you can browse your local files with file:// protocol and also you'll get an option to publish those directories to P2P.
@retro @craigoverend @cypherpunk @agregore Yeah sadly there's no clean no-code option yet. I'm working on adding folder uploads to the `file viewer` app. https://github.com/AgregoreWeb/website/blob/main/apps/fileviewer.html First I added some stuff to make it easier to write text files. Sadly it's all in my spare time between work and existing in meatspace. 😅
@retro @craigoverend @cypherpunk @agregore @peersky @akhileshthite Oh! If you're comfy setting up servers, we mad this a while ago: https://distributed.press/
@retro @craigoverend @cypherpunk Hey! I added a button to upload files to the file viewer. You can make a new p2p site and upload whatever you want into it and share the link with another agregore instance. hyper://agregore.mauve.moe/apps/create.html
I installed Release 2.24.0 debian package from GitHub. It opens a blank window on Debian Bookworm. The window is just a blank, white canvas. What should I check?
@retro Dang! I think I've heard this before but I lack a debian box. Does the AppImage or running from source work? or setting NODE_ENVdebug when running it from the cli should show more debug info. https://github.com/AgregoreWeb/agregore-browser/blob/master/package.json#L10
we're tracking it here: https://github.com/AgregoreWeb/agregore-browser/issues/331
Why have I been cursed with friendlessness?
It's not a curse. It's a lesson.
See what really lurks in hearts preventing any real connection on fundamentally true principles.
I've recently migrated to this personal / single-user #Mastodon instance and finally got around to writing about that "journey”, explaining how and why I did it.
https://shellsharks.com/own-my-social
It is but one more way in which I am pushing further into adoption of #indieweb #ownyourweb #ownyourdata #ownyoursocial ideas.
Honestly, the hardest part about the move was emotionally leaving infosec.exchange, I explain why in the post (https://shellsharks.com/own-my-social#thanks-to-infosecexchange). Thanks for everything @jerry 🧡!
@wravoc On the grand scale you're probably not wrong. But for me, and what I use "social media" for, it's been pretty good for 4-ish years. I hardly use socials, even Fedi for "micro-blogging" though. Most everything I want to say is done so on my site. I syndicate here sometimes, but mostly use it to interact with others posts. I've met some cool folks this way and that's all this place has ever needed to be. ✌️
Also Jerry's cool enough 😋. The bars low for humans these days 🤦♂️
Question: Exactly how much file storage and database space does your Mastodon instance eat up?
@shellsharks nice. I cheated and used AI to make my own blog that syncs and works with fedi and bluesy. Comments, follows, replies :D www.samuellison.com is my private version of it. But yes, I used AI - I know but guess what, I can't code, not my skillset.
@samuel I'm not a fan of AI, but I think this is as good a reason as any to use it. Blogs! Websites! Woo!
Inside you, there are two wolves.
Inside Mozart, there were, like, seven or eight.
That’s why they called him Wolfgang.
For example Beaker Browser and Impervious Browser seem to have been shelved several years hence.
Are there any other peer-to-peer browsers worth inspection?
Yeah, it was a nice surprise, then just got dropped like a stone.
@retro
I'd like to know too. I also think that it should work with a decentralised trustless human-readable DNS like Alfis or ENS with a light client. Preferably verified on the same device, but so long as it's light enough to run on a RPi I guess that's good enough for us techies. But we really should allow non-techies to share in the fun.
I'm poking around the apps, agregore and peersky.
Thanks to those who have helped my search!
@randrews
> I'm just sick of every invasion of privacy, every bit of censorship, being justified with "but there are some nazis, somewhere."
> Is the idea that if anyone listens to a nazi speak they'll be automatically convinced naziism is right? If that's the case then maybe it IS right... but it's not, turns out that if you actually listen to the nazis, they're idiots.
Depends on the listener. Some are idiots themselves. Some are not, but only care about their own 'race' and fuck the others.
@randrews
Also see my other reply. Octade explicitly mentioned accusations of fascism. It was that I was responding to.
@randrews
Nazis should be dealt with by banning them from public office and possibly also voting, not by censoring them IMO.
@light It's just so tiresome to see this same thing play out over and over again.
If we did that, then the definition of "nazi" would expand to encompass everyone that the side currently in power doesn't like. You can't have freedom and rights for just some people.
@randrews
I don't call being able to make decisions for other people "freedom and rights". That's power.
@light Hold office: someone voted for them. Voting: deciding for themselves who they want to represent them.
But again, that's beside the point: my point is once you carve out an exceptional group you don't have to treat fairly, you're going to try and pile everyone you don't like into that group. Happens every time. Look at the people who get called nazis now: almost none of them are actually nazis. Doesn't matter, because the code word means "we can abuse this guy."
Godwin's Law is possibly the first fundamental law of the fediverse.
@randrews
Yes, I guess you're right. The term has been abused.
I mean, if you have your head screwed on straight it is possible to use it correctly. But the trouble is that many people don't.
This is why I prefer the term "kraterocracy". It's more specific to what is most problematic about fascism and it hasn't been abused (yet).
I stand by my remarks on the fascism tiraders. Those most vociferously denouncing fascism are in fact, fascists projecting their shortcomings onto the people they hate.
Ditto for those vociferating against socialism. A million republicans say that helping the poor would be evil socialism, then they pass laws giving corporate welfare and tax breaks to the rich. They are really socialists, as long as the redistribution of wealth is to their rich friends instead of the poor.
Politics is a swirling toilet full of hypocrisy and Freudian projection.
@retro @light What’s interesting about all of this is that all three of us, in fact almost everyone having these conversations, actually wants the same thing: we all dislike nazis, we all want to help the poor, and so on.
I AM one of those anti-socialism republicans and you aren’t accurately describing our position at all. That’s the whole problem, is that most people don’t understand what the other side actually thinks. They’re only fed caricatures by a scheming media.
" ... we all dislike nazis, we all want to help the poor, and so on."What about poor Nazis? What's the rule?
BTW, what exactly is a Nazi?
Didn't they all snuff it about 70 years ago?
@randrews
They seem more numerous when you are on the side of fedi where they speak openly. There is also a current of what they call "hiding their power level" I.e. speaking in code and hiding the fact that they're Nazis. Which means that you can't be fully sure that someone is not a Nazi. Which can make me think that they are more numerous than you think they are.
@retro
@light @retro My position is whenever the government tries to do something, it turns into a disaster, so we should have them do as little as possible.
As for what socialism is, just look at the countries that call themselves socialist: Venezuela, China, Cuba, former USSR: oppressive hellholes, mostly with shortages of everything (China being the exception on the shortages). Why would anyone want that? And turns out they don't; people flee from those countries when they can.
My search continues.
Will someone chime in with a list of bible software they have found useful? I'm using Linux and always on the lookout for new tools. Links would be helpful.
So far I have the applications: Xiphos, Bibletime, Widemargin, and Diatheke.
#Bible #BibleSoftware #BibleStudy #Xiphos #Bibletime #Diatheke #KJV
Has the most important Portuguese versions that I need.
Christians use the prophecy of Isaiah to prop up their false virgin birth myth.
The English translation is incorrect. The word in Isaiah is 'almah' and does not mean a virgin. Many translators claim that it means, 'young woman' but that is not the actual meaning, although 'young woman' can be implied. 'Almah' means a 'maiden' of any age, or a ritually pure maiden--not a virgin. It means a woman who is ritually clean from keeping her covenant. The word is not about bedroom habit in any way, shape, or form.
In the New Testament, the Greek word, 'parthenos' is used, and is translated as 'virgin' then interpreted again in the vein of 'bedroom habits'. Once again, this is a false rendering, as 'parthenos' is in reference to the woman being ritually pure, meaning she is a 'virgin' who has not cheated on her God with idols. Even in modern English 'virgin' can refer to someone doing something the first time as a 'virgin'. We call uncut forest, 'virgin timber'. This is the sense in which 'almah' and 'parthenos' are being used in the Bible.
Babies are not conceived without a human father. Period. Joseph the husband of Miriam is the literal, biological father of Jesus of Nazareth. The Christian dogma of the 'virgin birth' and 'immaculate conception' is nonsense.
Blame the gnostic church 'fathers' for imposing this virgin birth myth into the Bible, and confusing people for 1800+ years.
No one in their right mind considers it a miracle for a young woman to conceive. It is considered a miracle in the Bible when a barren woman conceives. We see this with Abraham and Sarah, and again with the conception of John the Baptist.
People pretend to study the bible for years or decades and it never dawns on them how many times God calls Israel a harlot for fornicating with idols, and how he is going to have 'virgins' to worship him. By 'virgins' is meant those who have not committed spiritual fornication with false gods. It is not about bedroom habits.
@retro
You are hunting for Bible software, you say, but really you are hunting for souls of men, to lure them in here to drop lies on them.
The goal of retro's post is obvious: to kill faith in the divinity of Jesus. This is the work of the adversary.
A virgin giving birth is such a remarkable miracle that the liar says it is not possible. But with God, all things are possible. And it was God's Spirit in the perfect man Jesus Christ, the Son of God, who atoned for the sins of fallen man.
The 'adversary' is you.
I said:
"Babies are not conceived without a human father. Period. Joseph the husband of Miriam is the literal, biological father of Jesus of Nazareth. The Christian dogma of the 'virgin birth' and 'immaculate conception' is nonsense."
The Word of God agrees. The Bible in the original language explicitly tells us that Jesus is the biological seed of Joseph the husband of Mary.
"Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David ACCORDING TO THE FLESH ; "
"And declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead:"
Jesus is the literal seed of David, through his father Joseph. He is not the product of a virgin birth. The Apostles taught no such thing. They give the PATERNAL genealogy of Jesus to establish his claim to the throne of Israel as King of Israel. If Jesus were the product of a 'virgin birth' he would have no claim to the throne of Messiah and giving his genealogy would be a pointless lie. Your virgin birth myth denies his claim to the the Son of Man. It is the resurrection that makes him the Son of God with the divine titles. Having the titles does not make him a pre-existent 'god-man' who incarnated as a man. All the kings, priests, and judges of Israel before him had the titles of Elohim, and they didn't even have to rise from the dead to don the titles. What sets Jesus apart is that by the resurrection he gained all three titles of God. The only 'trinity' that exists is the trinity of divinely-ordained titles invested in the MAN, Jesus of Nazareth.
John the Baptist baptized and anointed Jesus the King of Israel. During this ceremony, God sent the spirit to descend to witness that Jesus is the Son of Man who would take all the titles of authority to himself. When God raised Jesus from the dead, Jesus became both King and High Priest, as well as chief Judge. All the titles are now invested in one man who sits on God's throne to judge the nations.
God told this to David about his progeny, Jesus:
"And when thy days be fulfilled, and thou shalt sleep with thy fathers, I will set up THY SEED after thee, which shall proceed OUT OF THY BOWELS, and I will establish his kingdom."God clearly says that Jesus will proceed from David's loins as his seed or great grandson. The virgin birth myth calls God a liar. The virgin birth myth says that Jesus is not the offspring of David at all, but instead is a strangely generated chimera without a human father. Having no human sire would invalidate Jesus as heir to the throne of Israel, making his gospel and sacrifice of no effect.
By the very law of the Covenant God made with Israel and David, only the seed of David can inherit the throne of Israel. If Jesus was immaculately conceived, he would not be the seed of David and his claim to be Messiah would be invalid, by God's own law.
Church theologians who translated the bible wrongly attributed wrong meanings to the use of the words, 'almah' and 'parthenos' to prop up the pagan demigod religion of the Romish church. The Bible is clear that Jesus is the offspring of David:
"And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene."The Apostle is noting a play on words here in the prophecy. The Hebrew, 'nazar' is the branch or sapling that springs up from a stump or root. He is saying that Jesus is the descendant of David's family tree, through his biological father, Joseph.
The concept of 'virgin' is being applied to denote spiritual purity, not a discussion of the subject's bedroom habits. I am right, and you sir, are simply wrong. I understand the scripture, and you sir, simply have a false understanding from centuries of dogmatic brainwashing.
I will temporarily ignore your false and slanderous accusations against me and my motives. I know it is quite a shock to idol worshipers when they first hear that their trinity idol is a false god unknown to the Prophets and Apostles. This affords you an opportunity to repent of your idolatry and slandering.
If you make one more imbecilic false accusation or continue to impugn my character with Dominican-styled inquistor slanders, I will just mute you and move on. I don't have a duty to devote my life to countering endless streams of baseless accusations from half-wit idol kissers.
What are we reading, friends?
@standardebooks The Last Day by Andrew Hunter Murray
podman documentation. gagh.
@standardebooks empire of ai by karen hao
Oh, I bet this is quite interesting. Any initial thoughts?
@standardebooks it’s one of those books that makes you really angry. not at the book or author, but at the subject. Hao shows well the degree of disfunction in OpenAI
WhatsApp Clone, but Decentralized with P2P Messaging
"Secure and private" is the general goal.
This is a technical/concept demo of a fairly unique approach using a browser-based, local-first and webrtc.
This is intended to introduce a new paradigm in client-side managed secure cryptography. We can avoid registration of any sort.
Features:
* P2P
* End to end encryption
* Signal protocol
* Post-Quantum cryptography
* File transfer
* Local-first
* No registration
* No installation
* No database
* TURN server
Feel free to reach out for clarity instead of diving into the docs/code.
IMPORTANT: While this is aiming to provide a secure experience, it isnt audited or reviewed. **Shared for testing, feedback and demo purposes only.** Please use responsibly.
#Privacy #OpenSource #P2P #WebRTC #Decentralization #DigitalSovereignty #CyberSecurity #FOSS #SelfHosted #NoCloud #AntiCorp #Encryption #WebDev #TechLiberty #PrivateMessaging #Networking #DataPrivacy #InternetFreedom #LocalFirst #SoftwareEngineering #WebApps #ZeroKnowledge #PrivacyTech #IndieDev #NoSignup #NoInstall #DecentralizedWeb #SecureMessaging #BrowserApp #TechEthics #P2P #WebRTC #PeerJS #ZeroData #EphemeralData #Encryption #E2EE #BrowserToBrowser #NoInstall #Privacy #Security #Decentralized #Messaging #VideoCall #NoTracking #PrivateMessaging #Prototype #Demo #WorkInProgress #CloseSource #OpenSource #WebDev #GitHub #TechDevelopment #WhatsApp #ChatApp #InstantMessaging #PWA
@xoron
Does it use a lot of vibe coded functionality, or is it hand crafted?
@phlogiston I'm using AI as like a fancy auto complete. I still consider it hand crafted. The landing page is largely AI. The documentation and blog is my own work that i transcribe with AI. Nothing is a single prompt.
im not using anything like openclaw in the background.
"Vibe coded" is a overloaded term.
"I'm using AI as like a fancy auto complete."LOL ... when AI first gained steam, I called it 'fancy auto complete'.
@retro I always get the question about if I'm using AI. I would have to expand on how it isn't a simple prompt. It's a bit tiresome to do every time.
It ultimately seems like a loaded question knowing that on my best day, I can't write a fetch() call faster than AI.
AI coding is fairly mainstream at this point. Not nessesarily a good thing when it comes to cryptography, but answering if it's vibecoded can become a complex question.
A person opposing genocide does not have to explain themselves. It’s the humane default.
If you’re playing devil’s advocate and the topic is genocide, guess what? You’re not playing devil’s advocate. You’re the devil’s public relations department.
No, there aren’t “good people on both sides” when one side is commiting genocide.
Good people do not commit genocide.
Good people do not defend people who are commiting genocide.
Good people are not complicit in genocide.
You can do all of these things today with impunity because we live in a corrupt world that’s circling the drain of fascism. You can do all these things and feel safe, protected by a system built on settler colonialism – the beneficiary of past ethnic cleansings, apartheids, and genocides and run by its heirs.
You can do all this but what you cannot do is call yourself a good person. Because you’re not.
Opposing genocide isn’t a preference. It’s the lowest possible bar for humanity.
@aral Do you still do your live streaming?
THIS post is the good stuff as an audio chat I think would take it further, also financially for you.
e.g. I'll pay you for half hr of chat!
(Others also I'm sure!)
Consider instant #Jitsi chats - 3 clicks - no account, no reg, instant, any browser, any platform, link here:
https://jitsi.freifunk-duesseldorf.de/chat12345
or
https://jitsi.freifunk-duesseldorf.de/aral_chat
A more personally encouraging approach for awareness & answers (going to the gym with others / hearing our hero people) ?
@aral Do consider the offer or even say why not.
It's like free money between good people (as much as we don't like money we should do something together often and build #togetherness at the same time?).
Good recent posts by the way.
"... we live in a corrupt world that’s circling the drain of fascism."UNDERSTATEMENT ACHIEVEMENT AWARD
Yeah, the world is a fascist nuthouse run by rabid wolves.
If we consider what the wolf emblem represents then we can see the smokescreened perpetrators of the genocide, or at least their shadows in the smoke.
Apps for encryption, comms, Usenet, remailers ...
Ch1ffr3punk: https://github.com/Ch1ffr3punk
The owner is a denizen of the OG #Usenet scene.
#cypherpunk #cryptography #crypto #encryption #privacy #github #freesoftware
@cypherpunk@soc.octade.net @cryptography@soc.octade.net @usenet@soc.octade.net
Judge Learns Lawyers on Both Sides of Case Used AI, Cancels Trial, Kicks Everyone Off the Case #devopsish https://www.404media.co/judge-learns-lawyers-on-both-sides-of-case-used-ai-cancels-trial-kicks-everyone-off-the-case/
1981: Mechanical Nutritional Reduction Facilities are an option for the Orphan Crisis.
1996: Nobody likes orphan mincing but we must be realistic here.
2001: The real issue is improving standards and oversight.
2010: Let's focus on reducing unnecessary orphan reduction and preserving jobs.
2019: We should respect differing views on orphan reduction.
2023: The debate has become too polarised, too politicised.
2026: Buskernut: "My grandfather worked in Reduction facilities, my father fought for West Arkotan jobs, and I won't stand by while coastal elites attack our way of life."
Holy mother forking shirtballs, this thread got dark (and terrifyingly accurate) fast.
It inspired me to think about Soylent Green.
I think Soylent Green might be optimistic at this point. 😂
I overshooted with the beard trimmer and had to shave it all off...
But not only that, I almost got rid of one of my sideburns... So I had to trim the other to match
:BlobCatDerpy:
@joel When I got married I was clean-shaven except for a mustache. A few weeks later I accidentally shaved one side of it with my clippers (forgot the blade guard).
I sat there for about a minute, then shrugged and took off the rest.
Since then I've been far less worried about things like a bad haircut... I can always start over!
Winter: no razor shall touch my head.
Summer: get the turtle wax.
Communist #Poland 1980 toilet paper was an extremely valuable trophy these times, because it was in constant shortage. Once you waited in queue for anything from 6 to 12 hours, you could only buy so many rolls of paper, which is why the happy pair on the photo carries a whole garland, as if it was a trophy hunted in a jungle.
But hey, bookstores were full of collected works of Marx, Engels, Lenin etc printed on paper, so you know…
Might one say the writing of Marx can be mildly laxative?
More like sleeping pills, when you actually read them. But their actual usability in daily life depended purely on the paper they were printed on. If it was a thick, white coated paper, it was useless for anything than desk leg support. But if it was printed on this thin grey paper, they had so many uses! You could use them in toilet, you could roll cigarettes of them etc.
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Closed
@prettygood I sometimes call it a viaduct.
bridge.
or overpass.
If driving over it on a straight or level grade, it is an overpass. Technically an overpass is a road that allows one to drive over another road making a level and distinct grade separation.
If driving under it with a change in grade, it is an underpass. An underpass generally changes its grade to sink under another road, by excavating downward beneath the higher road.
If it is a long, level bridge with multiple spans, columns, or arches, it is a viaduct. Think of elevated rail lines in Chicago, or long bridges across wide rivers supported by several spans of piers or arches.
@retro @prettygood so is this a viaduct, bridge or an underpass?