Up until today I misunderstood the Roman Catholic dogma of the Assumption.

The Christian West (in general, as I understand it) believes that the Virgin was assumed into heaven without undergoing death. This is why the feast is called the Assumption — that she was bodily assumed like Enoch or Elijah.

The Christian East believes that she died, and that angels summoned the surviving apostles to Gethsemane for her funeral, except for St. Thomas, who was evangelizing in India. When he arrived late, he asked that her tomb be opened so that he could pay his respects to the body that had borne God. Upon opening the tomb, they found it empty: she had been raised as the firstfruits of what is promised to all of God’s faithful. This is why the feast is called the Dormition, or falling-asleep of the Virgin — because she actually died.

I had formerly believed that the dogma of the Assumption included as part of its dogmatic formula that she was assumed into heaven without death. This would be problematic for Byzantine Catholics, who hold to the Eastern understanding, and whose hymnography is very explicit in that regard. It would also make necessary that the Orthodox be regarded as heretics from a RC point of view, rather than just schismatics.

But I just finished skimming “Munificentissimus Deus” (Pope Pius XII, 1950), and it does not specify that assumption-without-death is part of the dogma as it was defined at Vatican I. The dogma simply states that her body was assumed into heaven. I can buy that. (Though I cannot buy the tie-in with the Immaculate Conception of Mary, which is not a dogma that Eastern theology ever found necessary, and indeed many find offensive.)

@rqm @TechpriestBaunach @patmulcahy Feel free to chime in with any corrections to my assumptions (pardon the pun).

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A quotation from Ingersoll

It was also believed [in barbarous times] that certain things must be accepted as true, no matter whether they were reasonable or not; that it was pleasing to God to believe a certain creed, especially if it happened to be the creed of the majority.

Robert Green Ingersoll (1833–1899) American lawyer, freethinker, orator
Lecture (1881-05-01) “The Great Infidels,” Booth’s Theater, New York

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Dogmas are always problematic for me, and I tend to see religion as mostly a set of dogmas.

I've always seen faith and religion as two separate things. Faith is personal ...

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@Eelco Mulder :mastodon: 🇪🇺 Dogmas are always problematic for me, and I tend to see religion as mostly a set of dogmas.

Faith and religion

I've always seen faith and religion as two separate things. Faith is personal conviction, religion is someone else's convictions that are forced upon you.

If you haven't seen the (Dutch) film Simon, you should. Other than being a really, really good film, it also has the main character give us this wisdom:

Every form of organized religion is wrong.

I agree. Faith is fine, religion is (mostly) not. Let everybody think for themselves: a "moral compass" should be in your head, not in random ancient texts.

But if the gist of your holy scripture is to be nice to each other, to help those in need and to see all human beings as equal, several serious questions and doubts should pop up in your mind if an openly racist misogynist with a long list of convictions for crimes that also go against the Ten Commandments, says he is a true christian. Is he? And if so, are you?

What would Jesus do?

Again, I'm an atheist, but I have absolutely no problem with telling people that face a moral question, to ask themselves "what would Jesus do?"

For me, Jesus wasn't an immortal deity who could walk on water, but simply someone who pointed out the same societal problems we see today: inequality, poverty, greed, abuse of power, hypocrisy... He wasn't the first or the last to do that either.

Creeds on greed

Jesus was crystal clear about greed; this article, "What did Jesus say about greed?", explains it exactly like I see it.

That's pretty much the same as what Buddha teaches us, only the goal to reach is not a god or heaven, but enlightenment.

I like to see myself as a socialist, a concept that is based on the same ideas as those preached by Jesus and Buddha: help each other, and share. Capitalism is the opposite of that: grab what you can.

A true Christian can never also be a capitalist, at least not without an unhealthy dose of hypocrisy.

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A quotation from Bulwer-Lytton

The best teacher is the one who suggests rather than dogmatizes, and inspires his listener with the wish to teach himself.

Edward George Bulwer-Lytton (1803-1873) English novelist and politician
Kenelm Chillingly: His Adventures and Opinions, Book 3, ch. 12 [Kenelm] (1873)

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While everyone is distracted by the scripted ICE theater the counter-reformation unification of Roman Church and state proceeds stealthily. Rome's agents are slowly converting America to the Imperial Roman religion.

From his bully pulpit the President is proclaiming Imperial Roman religion about the Roman goddess Mary, formerly known as Minerva, also sometimes known as Venus, and formerly known as Isis in Egypt and Semiramis in Babylon.

Presidential Message on the Feast of the Immaculate Conception

"In her honor, and on a day so special to our Catholic citizens, we remember the sacred words that have brought aid, comfort, and support to generations of American believers in times of need: Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou among women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/2025/12/presidential-message-on-the-feast-of-the-immaculate-conception/

This is deadly Imperial Roman dogma being proclaimed from the Presidential bully pulpit.

The Roman "Mary" is Isis of the Egyptian trinity. The Roman "Mary" is NOT the Miriam who gave birth to Jesus of Nazareth. The Roman "Mary" is also known as Astarte, Easter, and in Babylon as Semiramis. The Roman Church pasted a "Mary" nametag on its pagan idol, then by the sword of Constantine and Justinian forced all Christians to worship this idol.

Anyone who can actually read the Bible can see that the 'immaculate conception' of a 'sinless mother of god' is nowhere taught in the Bible. But it was taught in Babylon, Greece, Egypt, and Rome. The trinity is a pagan idol having nothing to do with the God of the Bible. Trinity worship is the chiefest of things the true God of Abraham despises. The trinity is a hoodwink to trick Christians into worshiping the old serpent and insulting the divine Creator.

The Bible is clear on who God is:

"Hear O Israel, the Lord our God is one [echad:singular] Lord alone!"

This is the first great commandment of the Law of Moses. Upon this one commandment hang all the Law and the Prophets.

Then in the Decalogue given at Sinai a similar command is given:

"Thou shalt have no other gods before me."

In the Hebrew of this phrase, the word BEFORE is means REPRESENTING. Thou shalt have no other gods REPRESENTING me. Notice he says GODS in the plural, as Israel just came out of Egypt where there was a trinity of gods.

The next commandment is a further condemnation of the trinity:

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:"

In the religion of the trinity, the father reigns over heaven, the mother/son/daughter/hermaphrodite reigns over the earth, and sometimes the third person of the trinity reigns over the waters. We see this with the Sumerian Anu, Enlil, and Ea, who are copied by the Romans in varying forms, for example as Jupiter, Juno, and Minerva. In this one command the God of Moses is rejecting this form ot trinitarian worship, saying he alone is God, and he is jealous against all idolatry of this trinity demon.

Why did the first commandment need to be about God being one or singular?

Because Israel just came out of Egypt where the god of Egypt was a trinity. So God founded the entire law of Moses on a complete rejection of the trinity. The first commandment that God gave to Israel was to HEAR that he is SINGULAR.

Jesus Christ also rejects the Catholic Trinity:

" And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

Out of Jesus own mouth he says that only the Father is God. More over, he says that the Father is the "ONLY TRUE GOD" showing that Jesus knew there was a false god--the trinity of the Grecians and Romans that came from Egypt that came from Babylon.

The Christian religion is an organized insurrection against Jesus Christ while claiming to represent him. Jesus warned us that many would come in his name, and that they are all liars:

"All that ever came before [representing] me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. ..... But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep. The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep."

We have 30 thousand sects full of hirelings who teach you to worship their false trinity idol. Christ's sheep reject this idol and follow the true shepherd, who teaches that the Father alone is God. Jehovah, the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, is the only divine being that has ever existed. There is no other. There is no 'god the son' or 'god the holy spirit'. There is only and ever GOD THE FATHER in heaven.

Only Jehovah is God. Jehovah does not share his glory. He shares his life. He shares his wisdom. He shares his titles. He shares his power. He shares his authority. He shares his property which he created. But he does not share his GLORY, his right to be known as the only singular God and Creator. And he especially does not share his glory with idols such as the Roman trinity.

Everyone worshiping the trinity is an idolator, just as ancient Israel committed idolatry with the trinity of Babylon and Egypt.

The Demonic Trinity of Rome was the Capitoline Triad:

The Capitoline Triad was a group of three deities who were worshipped in ancient Roman religion in an elaborate temple on Rome 's Capitoline Hill (Latin Capitolium). It comprised Jupiter, Juno and Minerva. The triad held a central place in the public religion of Rome. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitoline_Triad]

The Capitoline Triad Temple is related to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_of_the_Holy_Sepulchre#Connection_to_Roman_temple]

Babylonians worshiped a trinity:

"The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god--as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity ..." (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, pages 22-23). [https://archive.org/details/mysticalwomanan00rockgoog]

Moses, the Prophets, the Apostles, and Jesus Christ of Nazareth rejected the trinity idol of the nations. All of these men gave glory to singular god whom they called, Father. So ask yourself why Christian preachers are teaching you to worship a trinity when the God of Abraham and Moses declares himself to be SINGULAR.

The answer is simple: The Christian religion is a centuries-long insurrection against the kingdom of God, masquerading itself as the kingdom of God. And this is what Genesis tells us about the kingdom of Nimrod.

The Father created Jesus Christ as the only valid image of deity that men can bow to. Humanity is always bowing to idols of their own making, both physical and mental idols. The Father in Heaven HATES this. He met mankind halfway since mankind is incapable of worshiping what he cannot see. So the Father made an image of himself in the man Jesus Christ, and commands us to bow to that man as God's face or representative. This in no way makes God a trinity nor does it make Jesus a person in a trinity. It makes Jesus a man, like any other man, who was chosen and formed to be the image of God. God solved the idolatry problem, yet to this day the Christian religion persists in denying God's mode of worship and substitutes their idolatry in place of what God commands.

Jesus is the Image of God. Jesus is the Son of God. Yet Jesus is neither God nor God the Son. That is a clever trick of Rome to fool people into worshiping their ancient trinity deity.

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