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The 3rd Woe: From Warning to Full-Scale Judgment (VF)

Introduction: The Anatomy of Last-Days Sifting The apocalyptic landscape of the 70th Week is often viewed as a chaotic downpour of wrath, but scriptural prophecy reveals a highly structured, surgical operation of divine triage. At the heart of this narrative is the execution of the 3rd Woe—the definitive transition from global warning to full-scale, unadulterated judgment. Central to this transition is the legal expiration of the 8th Beast’s 1,260-day lease and the destiny of the […] [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

Introduction: The Anatomy of Last-Days Sifting

The apocalyptic landscape of the 70th Week is often viewed as a chaotic downpour of wrath, but scriptural prophecy reveals a highly structured, surgical operation of divine triage. At the heart of this narrative is the execution of the 3rd Woe—the definitive transition from global warning to full-scale, unadulterated judgment. Central to this transition is the legal expiration of the 8th Beast’s 1,260-day lease and the destiny of the “Remnant.” Unlike the Church Age Harvest (the 144,000 and the Great Multitude) who are secured beforehand, this Remnant must navigate a mathematically precise sifting process. Through the devastating catalyst of the 6th Trumpet and the strict blueprint of Zechariah 13, humanity is systematically divided into those who solidify their rebellion through the Mark and those who emerge as the refined, final third.

To frame our understanding of this final cosmic division, consider these foundational questions:

  • The Legal Boundary: How does the hard 1,260-day expiration of the Beast’s lease fundamentally alter the spiritual physics of the earth, shifting the Remnant from the hunted to the co-heirs of victory?
  • The Mathematical Separation: Why must the global population be reduced by an exact third at the 6th Trumpet before the final polarization of the Mark of the Beast can occur?
  • The Post-Harvest Mercy: How does the proclamation of the “Eternal Gospel” by the 1st Angel serve as a unique, distinct dispensation of grace for those left behind after the primary harvest is already standing before the Throne?

Focusing on the remnant makes it clear that while the 8th Beast has global authority, there is a specific group of believers he is actively hunting during that 1,260-day window.

Why the “Remnant” Matters

Focusing on the remnant makes it clear that while the 8th Beast has global authority, there is a specific group of believers he is actively hunting during that 1,260-day window.

The remnant are those who refuse the Mark of the Beast during the 70th week. Their endurance lasts for the 1,260 days, marking the window where God protects His people while the 8th Beast pursues them.

The Fulfillment: By the end of the 1,260 days, the “legal lease” of the Beast expires. The “remnant” is no longer the hunted; instead, the 8th Beast and his 10 kings are gathered for judgment as the 7th Bowl prepares to declare, “It is done!”


The Phased Sifting: From Universal Trials to Final Refining

1. The Pre-Woe Universal Trials (Trumpets 1–4)
Before the 8th Beast even manifests, the first four Trumpets devastate the world’s infrastructure. This phase breaks human reliance on global systems, forcing every survivor to consider their spiritual standing.

2. The Mathematical Pivot (The 6th Trumpet)
The 6th Trumpet is the point of no return where a demonic army is released from the Euphrates to execute a massive judgment. 

  • The Slaughter: Exactly one-third (1/3) of all mankind is killed during this demonic attack.
  • The Survivors: This leaves exactly two-thirds (2/3) of humanity remaining on the earth.
  • The Great Divide: During the 1,260-day reign, this 2/3 is split into the Rebels (those who take the Mark) and the Remnant (those who do not). 

3. Zechariah’s Prophecy: The Refined Third
This links directly to Zechariah 13:8-9, where God prophesies that two parts (2/3) shall be cut off and die, but the third part (1/3) shall be left.

  • The First 1/3 Cut Off: Those killed in the 6th Trumpet.
  • The Second 1/3 Cut Off: Those who drink the wine of God’s fury. As the Third Angel proclaims in Revelation 14:9-11:

“If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury… They will be tormented with burning sulfur… and the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever.”

  • The Final 1/3 Remnant: These are the ones God brings “through the fire,” refining them like silver until they say, “The Lord is my God.” This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus (Rev 14:12).

4. Revelation 14: The 1st Angel’s Summons
This “refined third” is reached by the 1st Angel while the 8th Beast is manifested.

  • The Proclamation: The angel flies with an “eternal gospel,” crying out: “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come” (Rev 14:7).
  • The Result: This message acts as the final harvest for the 1,260-day remnant. This group survives the trumpets and chooses to give glory to God rather than take the Mark of the Beast.

5. The Bowls of Wrath: Hardening vs. Refining

  • The 1/3 Rebels (Marked): Experience the man-sores and scorching heat of the Bowls. They “blaspheme God” and refuse to repent.
  • The 1/3 Remnant: Preserved through the final judgments—likely escaping through the Revelation 11 earthquake or Zechariah 14 mountain cleft—while the Beast’s kingdom is dismantled. 

The 8th Beast (Apollyon/Gog) believes he has won after killing the Witnesses, but he has only cleared the way for God to save His final remnant. The 6th Trumpet removes those set for judgment, leaving a population that is sifted until the final refined third remains to enter the Kingdom of Christ


The Two Groups: Harvest vs. Remnant

The 144,000 and the Great Multitude represent a completed harvest that occurs before the 8th Beast’s direct 1,260-day reign. This leaves the 1/3 remnant of Zechariah as a separate, distinct group that must endure the final fires of the 70th week.

1. The Pre-Reign Harvest: The 144,000 and the Great Multitude

  • The 144,000 (The Firstfruits): These are sealed and protected early on. By the time the 8th Beast is manifested in the Land of Shinar, they are already seen standing with the Lamb on Mount Zion (Revelation 14:1), having been “purchased from among mankind as firstfruits” (Rev 14:4).
  • The Great Multitude: This group is seen in heaven before the throne (Revelation 7:9). They have already come out of “the great tribulation” and have had their robes washed in the blood of the Lamb.
  • The End of the Church Age: These two groups represent the completed harvest. Their absence from the earth is what allows the 8th Beast to have “authority over every tribe, people, language and nation” (Rev 13:7).

2. The Post-Harvest Remnant: The 1/3 of Zechariah

With the 144,000 and Great Multitude already in heaven, the focus on earth shifts to the 1/3 remnant mentioned in the Old Testament.

  • The 6th Trumpet Sifting: After the 6th Trumpet kills 1/3 of mankind (Rev 9:15-18), the remaining population is sifted.
  • The Zechariah 13 Pattern: As noted, God promised in Zechariah 13:8-9 to “strike the land,” causing 2/3 to perish. This leaves a final 1/3 remnant on the earth who were not part of the initial harvest.
  • The Eternal Gospel (Rev 14:6-7): Because the initial harvest is gone, God sends the 1st Angel to fly in midheaven. This angel preaches to those who are “left behind”—the survivors of the trumpets—giving them one last chance to “Fear God and give Him glory.”
  • The Refining Fire: This 1/3 is the group that is brought “through the fire” of the final judgments. They are preserved while the Beast’s kingdom is dismantled.

Summary

The 144,000 and Great Multitude are the “Church Harvest” taken before the end. The 1/3 Remnant are the “Earthly Survivors” who respond to the Angel’s gospel during the 8th Beast’s 1,260-day reign. One group is saved out of the world, while the other is saved through the final destruction of the Beast system to enter the Millennial Kingdom.

The Three Groups of the Final Harvest

God’s plan is surgical. He removes His Firstfruits (the Church) before the 8th Beast arrives, uses the Trumpet judgments to sift the population, and then protects a Refined 1/3 to ensure the new world begins with a people who have truly chosen Him. The movement from the Land of Shinar (rebellion) to the restoration of the Kingdom is the ultimate story of God reclaiming His creation from the “Beast from the Past.”

Conclusion: The Triumph of the Refined Sovereign Design

Ultimately, the progression of the Trumpets and Bowls demonstrates that God’s end-times chronology is not an uncontrolled crisis, but a perfectly calibrated refining fire. The complete separation between the Pre-Reign Harvest and the Post-Harvest Remnant shatters the misconception of a single, uniform tribulation experience. By isolating the 144,000 and the Great Multitude in the heavenly realm, the text sharpens its focus on the final 1/3 remaining on earth—a group literally brought through the fire to secure the physical continuity of God’s covenant people. While the 8th Beast (Apollyon/Gog) operates under the illusion of absolute dominance after silencing the Witnesses, his kingdom is structurally undermined by the very judgments meant to cement his rule. The legal lease of Shinar expires, the plagues harden the rebels unto destruction, and the refined third stands ready to inherit a reclaimed creation.

To further deepen our grasp of this prophetic finale, we must ponder these insightful questions:

  • The Nature of Final Hardening: Why do the severe plagues of the Bowls cause the marked 1/3 to aggressively blaspheme God rather than repent, and what does this reveal about the permanent spiritual alteration caused by the Mark?
  • The Mechanics of Physical Preservation: By what exact geopolitical or supernatural means—such as the Zechariah 14 mountain cleft—does God physically sustain the mortal 1/3 Remnant through 100-pound hailstones to successfully populate the initial generations of the Millennial Kingdom?
  • The Historical Loop: How does the ultimate destruction of the “Beast from the Past” at Armageddon legally undo the ancient rebellion initiated at the Tower of Babel, effectively closing the loop on human history where it first began?

Appendix A: Scriptural Mapping of the Three Global Groups

The following sections anchor the three distinct groups across the narrative of the 70th Week, mapping their origins, experiences, and ultimate prophetic destinations.

A. The Church Age Harvest (Pre-Reign)

  • Sealing and Separation: Revelation 7:3–4; 14:1–4. Sealed before the manifestation of the 8th Beast.
  • Heavenly Location: Revelation 7:9. Standing before the Throne before the Bowls of Wrath are poured out.
  • Exemption from the Beast: Revelation 13:7–8. Their absence allows the Beast to dominate the remaining earth.

B. The Refined 1/3 Remnant (Post-Harvest)

  • The Mathematical Division: Zechariah 13:8–9. One-third is slain in the 6th Trumpet; one-third joins the rebellion; the final third is preserved.
  • The Final Call to Mercy: Revelation 14:6–7. Responding to the 1st Angel’s “Eternal Gospel” during the mid-tribulation sifting.
  • Supernatural Preservation: Zechariah 14:4–5; Revelation 11:13. Escaping physical annihilation through divinely appointed physical avenues (e.g., the splitting of the Mount of Olives).

C. The Rebellion (The Marked)

  • The System of the Beast: Revelation 13:16–18. Voluntarily taking the Mark for economic and political survival.
  • Judicial Hardening: Revelation 16:9, 11. Suffering the Bowls of Wrath, resulting in blasphemy instead of repentance.
  • The Final Judgment: Revelation 19:20; 20:10. The total military destruction at Armageddon and immediate casting into the Lake of Fire.

Appendix B: The Unified Prophetic Escape Route

Integrating the conclusion of the 2nd Woe (Revelation 11:13–14) with the geographical escape routes of Zechariah 14 and Daniel 11:41 reveals a single, continuous prophetic flight corridor.

The moment the Jewish remnant responds to the Jerusalem earthquake by giving glory to God, they are instantly designated as the “Refined 1/3.” This spiritual turning point immediately triggers their physical evacuation through a divinely carved highway out of Judea.

1. The Trigger: The Jerusalem Earthquake and Spiritual Awakening (Rev 11:13)

  • The Catalyst: The Two Witnesses ascend, a massive earthquake strikes Jerusalem, and a tenth of the city collapses.
  • The Pivot: The surviving Jewish remnant is struck with holy fear and gives glory to the God of heaven.
  • The Legal Shift: This act of repentance seals their identity as the Zechariah 13:9 refined third. The 2nd Woe closes, and as the 3rd Woe commences, this newly identified Remnant must immediately flee the incoming, full-scale wrath of the 8th Beast.

2. The Exit: The Mount of Olives Cleft (Zech 14:4–5)

  • The Physical Mechanism: As the crisis peaks and Christ’s presence interacts with the landscape, His feet stand upon the Mount of Olives, causing the mountain to split violently in half from east to west.
  • The Route: This precise geological rupture creates a massive, immediate valley running directly through the mountain ridge, acting as an emergency extraction corridor out of the collapsing ruins of Jerusalem.
  • The Destination: The Remnant flees through this valley toward “Azel,” a secure transit point on Jerusalem’s eastern perimeter. This sudden opening mirrors the splitting of the Red Sea, granting the newly awakened believers a miraculous escape route before the Beast’s forces can encircle them.

3. The Sanctuary: The Transjordanian Strongholds (Dan 11:41)

  • The Route: Emerging from the Mount of Olives cleft, the Remnant’s flight path extends eastward through the Judean wilderness, down across the Jordan River axis, and into the high country of modern-day Jordan.
  • The Scriptural Boundary: This eastward highway leads directly into the sovereignly protected territories of ancient Edom, Moab, and Ammon. According to Daniel 11:41, these specific regions are completely exempted and legally blocked from the military grip of the Antichrist during his global campaign.
  • The Secure Zone: The fleeing 1/3 Remnant finds ultimate sanctuary within these rugged, historic strongholds—such as Bozrah and Sela (Petra). This deep-wilderness haven serves as the designated zone where they are physically preserved from the face of the serpent and protected from the 100-pound hailstones of the final Bowl.

Appendix C: Map out the march route from Bozrah back to the Valley of Jehoshaphat (Megiddo/Jerusalem)

The march route from Bozrah to the Valley of Jehoshaphat outlines Christ’s tactical, northward military advance. Having shattered the enemy siege surrounding the hidden 1/3 Remnant in Edom, Messiah leads a triumphant procession up the ancient highway system of the Transjordan before crossing into Israel to finalize judgment at Jerusalem.

1. The Starting Point: The Breakthrough at Bozrah (Edom)

  • The Location: Ancient Bozrah, located in the rugged mountains of southern Jordan (Buseirah), southeast of the Dead Sea.
  • The Action: Christ decimates the forces of the 8th Beast encircling the Remnant (Isaiah 63:1–6).
  • The Assembly: This acts as the strategic rallying point where the liberated, mortal Remnant is gathered to follow behind the Messiah as He begins His northward advance.

2. The Transjordanian Ascent: The King’s Highway

  • The Route: The march moves due north from Bozrah, utilizing the historic ridge-route known scripturally and historically as The King’s Highway (Route 35 in modern Jordan).
  • The Path: This highway cuts through the high desert plateaus of ancient Moab and Ammon, keeping the Dead Sea tightly to the west.
  • The Significance: Because Daniel 11:41 guarantees this entire eastern region escapes the Antichrist’s control, this elevated highway serves as a secure, unobstructed transit corridor for the advancing kingdom assembly.

3. The Northern Pivot and Jordan Crossing: Shittim to Jericho

  • The Route: The march continues north through the Plains of Moab, arriving at the northeast corner of the Dead Sea near ancient Shittim.
  • The Crossing: The procession pivots west, descending into the Jordan River Valley to cross the river axis just north of the Dead Sea.
  • The Threshold: This crossing mirrors Joshua’s historic entry into the Promised Land, breaching the eastern border and arriving at Jericho—the foundational gateway into the Judean hill country.

4. The Ascent to Jerusalem: The Way of the Wilderness

  • The Route: From Jericho, Christ leads the march westward, climbing steeply through the rugged canyons of the Judean Wilderness (the modern Route 1 corridor).
  • The Approach: The route ascends roughly 3,500 feet over a span of 20 miles, passing the eastern flank of the Mount of Olives.
  • The Visual: This is the specific leg of the journey described in Habakkuk 3:3 and Deuteronomy 33:2, where God’s glory is seen flashing from the south (Teman/Paran) as He approaches His holy mountain.

5. The Destination: The Valley of Jehoshaphat (The Kidron Valley)

  • The Location: The deep ravine situated directly between the eastern wall of Jerusalem’s Temple Mount and the Mount of Olives.
  • The Terminal Point: This is the biblical Valley of Jehoshaphat (meaning “The Lord Judges”), referenced in Joel 3:2 and 3:12–14.
  • The Final Climax: The march culminates here. The surrounding armies of the Rebellion—which had deployed from Megiddo (Armageddon) to surround and sack Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:2)—are completely trapped in this narrow valley corridor. Christ steps onto the landscape, executes final tactical judgment, and permanently secures the city for the Millennial Kingdom.

Appendix D: How Joel 3 connects the winepress of Bozrah to the final decision in the Valley of Jehoshaphat

The Metaphorical and Tactical Bridge: Winepress to Valley

The connection between the winepress of Bozrah (Isaiah 63) and the Valley of Jehoshaphat (Joel 3) forms a single, continuous prophetic narrative of harvest and execution. Structurally, Isaiah 63 establishes the mechanism of judgment (the treading of the grapes), while Joel 3 provides the tactical concentration and legal finality of that same judgment.

Together, they show that the “winepress” isn’t just a symbol—it is a mobile, two-stage military campaign that begins at the shelter of the Remnant in Edom and terminates at the walls of Jerusalem.

1. The Architectural Link: The Overflowing Vat

In Isaiah 63, Christ is seen standing in Edom covered in the blood of His enemies, explicitly stating, “I have trodden the winepress alone.” Joel 3:13 picks up this exact agricultural imagery and applies it to the armies gathered at Jerusalem:

“Put in the sickle, for the harvest is ripe. Go in, tread, for the winepress is full; the vats overflow, for their wickedness is great.”

  • The Connection: The “winepress” is the physical crushing of human rebellion. While the treading begins at Bozrah to liberate the cornered 1/3 Remnant, the sheer volume of the global armies requires a massive basin for ultimate liquidation.
  • The Flow: The nations are harvested across the land, but they are systematically funneled into a concentrated topographical “vat”—the Valley of Jehoshaphat.

2. The Legal Assembly: The Valley of Verdicts

Joel 3:14 famously renames this geographic location: “Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.”

  • The Misconception: Modern readers often treat the “valley of decision” as a place where humans make a spiritual choice to follow God.
  • The Reality: In Hebrew, the word for decision is charuts, which means a sharp, decisive judicial decree or a trench cut flat. The nations are not there to decide their fate; they are there to receive the final verdict of the Judge.
  • The Connection to Bozrah: At Bozrah, Christ acts as the Deliverer, stepping into the fight to save His trapped people. By the time He marches into the Valley of Jehoshaphat, His role shifts to the supreme Chief Justice executing a global, unappealable legal sentence upon the remaining 2/3 Rebels.

3. The Tactical Bottleneck

Topographically, the Valley of Jehoshaphat (the Kidron Valley) is a narrow, steep ravine. It is a terrible place to deploy a massive, mechanized military force, making it a natural tactical trap.

  • The Trap: The 8th Beast mobilizes his forces at Megiddo (Armageddon) and pushes south to take Jerusalem (Zechariah 14:2). Simultaneously, a contingent hunts the Remnant to Bozrah.
  • The Bottleneck: After Christ obliterates the southern contingent at Bozrah, He drives the remaining forces back up into the narrow confines of the Kidron Valley.
  • The Crush: The armies of the Rebellion are compressed into this deep ravine. The “vats overflow” because millions of hostile troops are squeezed into a geographic bottleneck, allowing Christ to execute a surgical, total liquidation without any collateral damage to the city itself.

4. The Cosmic Climax

Joel 3:16 seals the connection by describing the physical disruption that occurs as the march concludes at the valley: “The Lord also shall roar out of Zion, and utter His voice from Jerusalem; and the heavens and the earth shall shake…”

This matches the exact parameters of the 7th Bowl / 3rd Woe, where the greatest earthquake in human history splits the landscape, signaling that the legal lease of the Beast has officially expired, and the winepress has completed its work.

Appendix E: Contrast the Heavenly Harvest (Rev 14) with this Earthly Treading (Joel 3 / Isa 63)

In the book of Revelation, the final execution of divine judgment is presented as a dual harvest. Revelation 14 explicitly separates this final sifting into two completely opposite events: The Grain Harvest (the Heavenly Harvest) and The Grape Harvest (the Earthly Treading).

While the grain represents the extraction of the righteous into the heavenly realm, the grapes represent the gathering of the wicked into the physical bottleneck of the winepress for total destruction.

1. The Grain Harvest (The Heavenly Gathering)

  • The Scripture: “Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle… So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.” (Revelation 14:14–16)
  • The Destination: The Heavenly Realm / Before the Throne.
  • The Identity: This represents the completion of the Church Age Harvest, including the 144,000 Firstfruits and the Great Multitude.
  • The Method: The Son of Man reaps the earth from above, sitting on a cloud. There is no blood, no warfare, and no physical treading mentioned. It is an act of lifting the mature, righteous grain off the earth to protect them securely in the heavenly barn before the full fury of the 3rd Woe drops.

2. The Grape Harvest (The Earthly Treading)

  • The Scripture: “And another angel came out from the altar, who had power over fire… saying, ‘Thrust in your sharp sickle and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth, for her grapes are fully ripe.’ So the angel thrust his sickle into the earth and gathered the vine of the earth, and threw it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.” (Revelation 14:18–19)
  • The Destination: The Earthly Bottlenecks (Bozrah and the Valley of Jehoshaphat).
  • The Identity: The 2/3 Rebellion—those who chose the Mark of the Beast and solidified their hostility against God.
  • The Method: This harvest is performed by an angel associated with fire and judgment. The grapes are violently sliced off the earth, bundled together, and cast down into a physical, localized geographical basin to be crushed.

The Ultimate Fusion: Revelation 14:20

Revelation 14 finishes the description of the grape harvest by seamlessly connecting it back to the physical march route we mapped earlier: “And the winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood came out of the winepress, up to the horses’ bridles, for one thousand six hundred furlongs.”

  • The Distance: 1,600 furlongs (stadia) equates to roughly 180 to 200 miles.
  • The Geography: If you trace the physical distance from the rugged strongholds of Bozrah (Edom), up through the King’s Highway in Jordan, across the river axis, and directly into the Valley of Jehoshaphat outside the walls of Jerusalem, it measures exactly this distance.

This proves that the Earthly Treading is a literal, geographically bounded military campaign. While the Grain Harvest cleanly extracts God’s people to heaven, the Grape Harvest systematically collects the Rebels and liquefies their entire military apparatus along a specific 1,600-furlong line of march.

Glossary of Prophetic Terms

  • 1,260-Day Legal Lease: The mathematically locked duration (3.5 prophetic years / 42 months) granted to the 8th Beast to execute global governance before his legal authority expires.
  • 3rd Woe: The final, structural phase of divine judgment encompassing the expiration of the Beast’s reign, the pouring out of the 7 Bowls of Wrath, and the physical return of Christ.
  • 6th Trumpet (The Pivot): The point of no return in the trumpet judgments where four demonic angels are loosed from the Euphrates, resulting in the death of exactly one-third of the earth’s remaining population.
  • 8th Beast (Apollyon/Gog): The final global dictator who rises from the abyss, intimately linked to the ancient rebellion of the Land of Shinar, who leads the kings of the earth into the final rebellion.
  • Church Age Harvest: The completed spiritual harvest comprising the 144,000 Firstfruits and the Great Multitude, who are secured in the heavenly realm before the Beast establishes his 1,260-day reign.
  • Eternal Gospel: The specific, urgent gospel proclamation delivered by the 1st Angel in midheaven during the 70th week, commanding the remaining population to fear God and reject the incoming Mark of the Beast.
  • Land of Shinar: The historic, geopolitical region (ancient Babylon/Babel) representing the foundational geographic origin of organized human rebellion against God, which resurfaces as the base of the final Beast kingdom.
  • Refined 1/3 Remnant: The mortal, surviving third of humanity who reject the Mark, endure the fires of the 70th week, and are physically preserved to populate the earthly Millennial Kingdom.

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    Recognizing Rebellion Behind the Pulpit

    By Elizabeth Prata

    SYNOPSIS: This article examines the question of persistent, public disobedience among self-professing Christian women who preach and teach in defiance of biblical commands. It urges discernment, humility, and repentance, arguing that ongoing rebellion against Scripture raises serious concerns about genuine faith.


    For those of us who love God and seek to obey at all points (but knowing we fail, so we repent and try again), the persistent and entrenched disobedience of some self-proclaimed Christian women is a puzzle to us.

    But then again, we read our Bibles and see 1 John 2:4 which says, The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him;

    And we say, those who constantly disobey, (especially by preaching in church, which is a gross abomination to Jesus), who are unteachable, who reject correction, who preach a different gospel, who deny the sufficiency of the Bible by their direct revelatory stories and puffed up visions, who abandon their career of motherhood & children at home to pursue a preaching career, whose fruit is only thorns and is bad…are likely not saved.

    And then we receive pushback on every point above. So it’s still a puzzle when the Bible is so clear on certain points which are easy to understand and interpret.

    If they had the Holy Spirit in them, He would not allow them to continue on a consistent path of rebellion. He would correct them either by opening their eyes to the proper verses, or by some drastic measure to awaken them to their transgressions. Do you think the Holy Spirit is in a woman who, for decades, disobeys? Can a true Christian have a seared conscience over their persistent and public sin and perpetuate it unapologetically? Dishonoring Jesus along the way and creating stumbling blocks for the weaker sisters?

    No. He killed Ananias and Sapphira to demonstrate how serious He is about sin in the church. He sent 7 letters to the churches in Revelation to show how serious He is about His church.

    women should keep silent in the churches”. 1 Corinthians 14:33-34.

    Pastor Gabe Hughes of WWUTT.com: Women Pastors are a Fundamental Problem for Southern Baptists

    GTY: Does the Bible permit a woman to preach?

    Ladies, be discerning. Above all, be humble. It takes humility to say ‘I followed this or that woman for a while and invested in her, with my heart, money, time, or energy, but my investment in her was misguided. Let me learn to discern better, let me be pure in my approach to obeying Jesus, let me abandon that which makes me stumble on my walk and turn to

    “…whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence and if anything worthy of praise, think about these things.” (Philippians 4:8).

    If you see a woman standing at a pulpit on a Sunday morning at church service and open her Bible and preach to the congregation, she is in rebellion. Though satan is subtle, and hides his schemes secretively many times, this one is an easy spot. If the woman preaches consistently (not just a one-time mistake), she is in rebellion and you can learn nothing from her.

    If you’ve followed such a one for a while, just talk to Jesus about it. Repent and ask Him to give you better discernment. He will!

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      Poem Title: “Light”

      Tripping like a candle stick in the dark, love I see myself in dark world without hope of someone to lean on. I should have run the race without looking back. I will run the race without looking back to another day.Tripping like a candle stick without light, with emptiness to shine her light. Sweetheart, to see you there with a stick of lighter to light my candle stick in the dark world. I will run the race without looking back. I will run the race of seen hope of lighting another […] [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

      Tripping like a candle stick in the dark, love I see myself in dark world without hope of someone to lean on. I should have run the race without looking back. I will run the race without looking back to another day.Tripping like a candle stick without light, with emptiness to shine her light.

      Sweetheart, to see you there with a stick of lighter to light my candle stick in the dark world. I will run the race without looking back. I will run the race of seen hope of lighting another day.

      The silence of the loneliness, and the emptiness of been love and committed to love makes me to see the reason to run a race for another time and another season.

      Can I say

      You stand as the light and as well I stand as candle stick

      As you are the catalyst which runs through my chemical equation to form perfect solution bonding. Will I say it was a mistake in committed to love, can I say let our love making scene never end till eternity?

      I will run the race without looking back, I will run the race of see hope of lighting the dark stories of loneliness.

      Gbenga Ezekiel Oladosu

      American National Award Winning Author

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      “The Born”

      The social influence of our day can never be wrong in some perspective of human decision making process. Leaders are born and some are trained leaders which makes the product of their kind different in the spheres of influence. The act of every leadership exercise is like when a baby is learning to crawl and not even learning to walk or talk in other to incorporate into the society. Learning is part of every process to growth in any given opportunity been given or available to us. The better […] [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

      The social influence of our day can never be wrong in some perspective of human decision making process. Leaders are born and some are trained leaders which makes the product of their kind different in the spheres of influence. The act of every leadership exercise is like when a baby is learning to crawl and not even learning to walk or talk in other to incorporate into the society.

      Learning is part of every process to growth in any given opportunity been given or available to us. The better understanding about leadership role of opportunity is that we can’t do way with learning process either from the people ahead of us to lead or in a classroom phase of life.

      We cannot afford the vocational training of been a leader as in the idea to life, every given leader that’s born to lead has better opportunity of showcase more ability than a trained leader. That’s while we can’t afford the vocational training of been a leader either by standing on a mentorship role of becoming a leader. Countries are crying out today for a good governance because of the role of their past leadership which is not aspect from their citizens. The good knowledge of a leader who is born to lead is by acquiring the knowledge of mentorship

      Gbenga Ezekiel Oladosu

      American National Award Winning Author

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      “The Tray”

      People group in different races and cultures rare with their believe system. People long for good life and good leadership ability to lead them in the sphere of influence. The anti government in different form of expression as opposition to the government either democracy, military system of government in some countries is beyond expression of human believe. From a look of thing, for example, when you are in a restaurant , I mean a good to look at or a club house for a wine or food. The food […] [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

      People group in different races and cultures rare with their believe system. People long for good life and good leadership ability to lead them in the sphere of influence. The anti government in different form of expression as opposition to the government either democracy, military system of government in some countries is beyond expression of human believe.

      From a look of thing, for example, when you are in a restaurant , I mean a good to look at or a club house for a wine or food. The food or the wine be placed on a tray to make their customer look welcome and come for another day toward the services given to them.

      This days, some countries prepared to be governed by Military government than democracy government. While is do, is that some leaders abused the role of democracy that’s established to protect the right of people but their rather abuse and over power the right of the people who voted for them. This makes them regret democracy than rather to choose the military government. To them they can see better understanding with the military government than democracy.

      We all long to have the right to self-will and not to abused our will power in the name of democracy. This day democracy is like a nightmare to some countries.

      While Military government is like a God serving to people, economic growth of some countries that they will love to remain with them.

      Gbenga Ezekiel Oladosu

      American National Award Winning Author

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      “Liberty”

      Dream and hope is based on the power within your liberty to dream in hoping for a better day ahead of time. In anticipating for who God has created you to be . Though you need a space of liberty to operate without boundaries or border that create opportunity for freedom. In as much, we can compare freedom and liberty together as they different functional purposes. They functions differently. But they work in hands in hands toward a goal. A goal that countries, people group build upon for a […] [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

      Dream and hope is based on the power within your liberty to dream in hoping for a better day ahead of time. In anticipating for who God has created you to be . Though you need a space of liberty to operate without boundaries or border that create opportunity for freedom. In as much, we can compare freedom and liberty together as they different functional purposes. They functions differently.

      But they work in hands in hands toward a goal. A goal that countries, people group build upon for a good day. People long for freedom has well liberty to do whatever they like. Liberty control limit and border while freedom control act of service of expression without limit

      Countries leaders sometime takes liberty for freedom denied their own citizen the ability to create opportunity to dream and hope for the batter day to grow as a citizen. They makes the law and they don’t live by the law of their own countries to the extend that they force their own citizens to live under the law they don’t obey or followed.

      Then limitation to liberty set in and some countries choose to live under Military leader and while some countries as well choose to live under respected democracy that makes people live and respect their law because their own countries leaders lead by good example as a leader born to leader and not a trained leader.

      Liberty is what created dream to freedom without fears of associating and willing to try and not afraid of mistakes because their is a law guiding everybody under the spheres of influence.

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      [?]A Faithful Sower Publishing » 🌐
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      What caused such a long-running decline in Christianity across the United States? Could the poor track record of certain organized religions and leaders be the contributing factor? Have we turned the corner? Click or tap the link to read more.

      afaithfulsower.org/2026/06/09/

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        Why do we need a Savior, and what is the significance of the church's rapture? Click or tap the link to read more.

        afaithfulsower.org/2026/06/11/

          [?]A Faithful Sower Publishing » 🌐
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          How do we approach serving as salt and light in such a dark, hostile world? Click or tap the link to read more.

          afaithfulsower.org/2026/06/12/

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            Fellowship with Jesus Christ

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              Dennis E. Powell writes, "Father Mark spoke matter-of-factly, perhaps with just a touch of resignation. 'Oh, I'll probably die young,' he said. 'My father died when he was 43. Cardiac.'"

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                In Luke 24:37–43, Jesus’ disciples were not immediately confident when He appeared to them after the resurrection. They were startled, frightened, and thought they had seen a spirit.

                Read the accompanying blog post: scottlapierre.org/proof-of-the

                Watch the sermon: youtu.be/VR6MJ_F-mLM

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                  Faith, Christianity [SENSITIVE CONTENT]

                  So...after church this past Sunday I ended up writing an entire thing that feels like a sermon on the same passage our Pastor preached on because I had a very different set of thoughts on the passage we read.

                  Acts 19:21-41

                  I just...now need to figure out what to do with this thing I have written.

                  🤔

                    [?]Timothy R. Butler » 🌐
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                    Let's think about what the Blessed Life really is... youtube.com/live/ZE0M1yz9P9Y

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                      [?]OCTADE » 🌐
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                      The Bible is a manmade poem inspired by the mind of God.

                      From Genesis to Malachi the Bible is very poetic. The Psalms are top-shelf poetry.

                      Much of the New Testament uses the same poetic emblems of the Old Testament.

                      God the Father is the master of poetry.


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                        GUNPOINT GOSPEL HOLY WAR

                        SINS of Christian Nationalism & Zionism

                        Sins of Christian War-Making

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-maDeoEDiI

                        Synopsis:

                        Holy war is a doctrine of the devil. Every church and organization promoting war for Christ is anti-christ.

                        Man cannot solve the evil in the world by 'fighting' or violence. That is exactly what the devil and his minions want. The gospel can not be spread by the sword or power of the state.

                        Every form of radical liberation theology or dominion theology is satanic because it denies the word of God and replaces it with the gospel of war.

                        Christian nationalists hate the lost because they too are lost souls with a messiah complex. Instead of following the messiah they want to reconstruct him in the imperial state. They do not have love of their neighbor.

                        My observation:

                        Christian Nationalism is disguised Roman imperialism, globalism and Zionism, hence it is neither Christian nor nationalist in character. Christian Nationalism has the same character imprint as Holy Roman Empire crusaderism. It is wicked and deceitful.

                        Christian Nationalists claim to advance 'dominion' or 'taking dominion'. This is blasphemy. The dominion over the nations was given to Jesus, not to imperfect men. Jesus is the one who is given dominion over all the nations. Thus Christian Nationalism blasphemously posits itself as the messiah with the dominion, just like its Catholic parent church.

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                          [?]Levi00 » 🌐
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                          Does the reccomend against reading that might motivate ones self to do well in this world not writen by god?

                          serious

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                            [?]OCTADE » 🌐
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                            Christian Nationalism is Roman Constantinian Idolatry

                            This political idolatry of 'Christian Nationalism' is not new. Only the wide perception of it is new due to everyone now being plugged into the Internet via their ever-present phones and tablets.

                            In the 1600s through the 1800s we see the political idolatry was at fever pitch and full swing, giving a host of politically-oriented cults, such as Witch-burning Puritanism, Swedenborgianism, Mormonism, Seventh-Day Adventism, etcetera. Even the Anglican church is an Imperialist political cult and has no warrant or sanction in the Holy Scriptures. It is a 'nationalist' tyranny over the mind. And then we see Islam, which Christians mistakenly believe to be a non-Christian religion. Islam is a Christian heresy, founded by heretical Catholics. Even the name, "Mohammed" is a corruption of the earlier Arabic, "Mahmed" meaning, "Messiah". Islam is an offshoot of medieval Christianity with its Saturn idolatry gone to seed. Islam is a daughter of Babylon, the Judeo-Roman prostitute.

                            Christianity has always been a politically idolatrous cult. For instance, The council of Nicea was convened by the Apollo-worshiping, Luciferian Emperor Constantine for nefarious and ungodly political purposes. Every bishop who was a political apparatchik showed up, ironing out a fascist version of Christianity that was forced on the empire by the sword for centuries.

                            The luciferians try to repeat this in every generation in which it looks like Christians will flee the Church plantation for the true body of Christ outside the Church.

                            Remember, the outer sea court of the temple was for the Gentiles (nations). The kingdom was removed from the inner court and given to them without. Christian authoritarians still have not recognized this.

                            If you want to advocate for a more biblical and faithful version of Christianity you need to leave behind the Imperial leadership model of the Church. The Apostles and the Reformers warned us about the man of sin sitting in the chair of the bishopric building his tower of Babel using the people (laity) as their bricks.

                            This thing commonly called, 'Christianity' is the backsliding idol worship of Israel in the Old Testament, brought to life in our current age. Jesus Christ is not a Christian. The Apostles of the Lamb are not Christians. Neither Jesus, nor the Apostles, nor the Prophets would recognize Christianity as legitimate. The sum of all their teachings mark Christianity as an impostor religion of idolatrous customs trading darkness for light.

                            There is no municipal kingdom of heaven. The kingdom of God cannot be brought about by the force of arms of mortal men. It comes by the Spirit of the Lord, not by the spirit of the world. Everyone pretending to build God's kingdom by inveigling, shaming, brow-beating, force, intimidation, fear-mongering, or authoritarianism, or civil government sanction, is an anti-christ, no matter how much they pretend to worship the Father and the Son and no matter how many zillions of times they claim their names.

                            In the Old Testament the Father prophesied to us the rise of the Christian world empire and its eventual destruction in the turning of the ages ahead. The Imperialist Christian cult likes to distract from its own wickedness by pretending Islam is the scapegoat, or by pretending Jews are the scapegoat. It might work for a time for their politics but God the Father is not fooled.

                            "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and God hath remembered her iniquities. ..... How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow. Therefore shall her plagues come in one day, death, and mourning, and famine; and she shall be utterly burned with fire: for strong is the Lord God who judgeth her."

                            The 'she' is the Christian Church. She is the harlot Babylon with her many Church babies, a true mother of political prostitutes and abominations of the earth. The Christian church glorifies herself and her system of bishopric authority instead of glorifying the simple gospel of Jesus Christ. Christianity is a machine for perpetuating its own system instead of setting the spiritual captives free.

                            We can truthfully say to the Christian Church what Christ said to the Scribes and Pharisees of ancient Judea:

                            "But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments, And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues, And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven."

                            In this age the first Adam who fell is the Church, the continuation of temple idolatry on life support. The second Adam who rises is Christ, or Jacob, who will supplant the first Adam as Jacob supplanted Esau in the birthright, as Jacob crossed his arms to swap the birthrights of Ephraim and Manasseh, as Isaac supplanted Ishmael, even as Paul the Apostle told us plainly. God has repeatedly told us how this Christian empire will be supplanted by Jesus Christ in the last days, yet Christians do not see what is plain in the scripture because they want political and spiritual power over other men, rather than being like Christ and humbly desiring to be a servant of servants for the love of God rather than recognition of position.

                            We learn from the Bible that God doesn't value man's concept of the birthright of authority, and freely supplants the older with the younger, even as he will supplant the older religious and Christian empire of the world with the younger Jesus of Nazareth.


                              [?]Timothy R. Butler » 🌐
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                              Please join @Bigdad1211 and me as we wrap up our discussion on and also talk about what "officers" are in the church. youtube.com/live/HdmIqKcd5hw

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                                Debunking the Myths of the Sacred Namers - Myth # 4 - Jehovah is Pointed with the Vowel Markings of Adonai

                                In the linked paper, Carl D. Franklin digs deep into the history of the tetragrammaton and debunks some of the myths commonly accepted as fact. The paper is part of a series and well worth the read for anyone interested in textual criticism or translation.

                                PDF: https://www.cbcg.org/franklin/debunking2.pdf

                                "Is it true that the name Jehovah borrowed its vowels from Adonai?"
                                Spoiler: No, it is not true. It is a fabrication of a false history. The pronunciation, JEHOVAH was used centuries before Galatinus, so it is impossible for him to have invented it. Moreover, there is exactly zero historical evidence that medieval scholars before Galatinus accepted any pronunciation other than JEHOVAH. They all appear to have unanimously supported this one widely known pronunciation of the tetragrammaton.

                                A lot of religious and textual myths have resulting in mass misconceptions about biblical textual history and meaning. Some of the myths misrepresent the tetragrammaton, or the name of God. This eventually led to the creation of the artificial name, Yahweh, which is not a Hebrew word, and is in fact a cleverly disguised classical Latin name for Jove. The author defrocks the Galatinus origin myth, proving the name JEHOVAH was in use long before Galatinus.

                                The sacred name mythos is popular in some Christian and Jewish sects as well as among the Hebrew Roots movement. This paper exposes some of the false history and baseless assertions about the pronunciation of the tetragrammaton. As it turns out, the early Masoretes and the Reformers as well as some early Catholics had gotten it right - JEHOVAH is the correctly preserved pronunciation of the name of God. The name was never 'lost' and it has been known all through recorded history, if even only by a few.


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                                  NATIVITY OF JESUS CHRIST

                                  I am doing some research on the nativity of Jesus of Nazareth. I am looking into the many sectarian traditions and scholarly opinions on this subject.

                                  I would like to get hermeneutic opinions and off the cuff opinions on some groundwork questions.

                                  1. What actual year do you think Jesus was born?

                                  2. How old was Mary when she was married?

                                  3. How did Mary conceive?

                                  4. What is the significance of his birthplace?

                                  5. What is the significance of the Magi who sought him after his birth?

                                  6. Why was it necessary or significant for an angel to tell Mary she was going to conceive?

                                  Where possible, links or citations would be useful for particular opinions or traditional explanations.

                                  @theology@a.gup.pe @christianity@a.gup.pe @religion@a.gup.pe @academicchatter@a.gup.pe @infostorm@a.gup.pe

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                                    CHRISTIAN CHURCH

                                    He said, "Of course I may be wrong,
                                    But I wouldn’t be surprised
                                    If this were the greatest Christian church
                                    That ever man devised.

                                    Our organ is the very best
                                    Our choir stays on key.
                                    Our stained glass windows — priceless
                                    Our pulpit — the best you’ll see."

                                    But only the wealthy were welcome there,
                                    I heard slanderous gossip galore,
                                    And from that pulpit so highly prized
                                    The preacher glorified war.

                                    "Is there anything more you could want in a church?"
                                    In pride, he said to me.
                                    "Just one thing," I made reply —

                                    "Christianity!"

                                    -- Peace Pilgrim --

                                    @religion@a.gup.pe @infostorm@a.gup.pe @bible@a.gup.pe @poetry@a.gup.pe

                                    A black and white photo of a woman known by the moniker, "Peace Pilgrim" with the words, "Peace Pilgrim" printed on her shirt.

                                    Alt...A black and white photo of a woman known by the moniker, "Peace Pilgrim" with the words, "Peace Pilgrim" printed on her shirt.

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                                      "The secret of lawlessness is that lawlessness is disguised as righteousness." ~ Martin Zender


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                                        [?]OCTADE » 🌐
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                                        Examining the Name of GOD Controversy (יְהוָה אֱלֹהִים) and Lord GOD (יהוִה אֲדֹנָי)

                                        ARTICLE: https://x.com/TovRose/article/1844473294503989605

                                        SYNOPSIS

                                        There is no historical or textual evidence that the tetragrammaton was pointed as a 'qere' in the ancient biblical manuscripts. The claim that JHWH is a qere for Adonai is ahistorical and there are only conjectures and not proofs for the qere claim.

                                        Moreover, the structure of the Hebrew grammar proves the tetragrammaton cannot be two syllables, as in the modern neologism, 'yahweh'. The tetragrammaton has to be three syllables, JE-HO-VAH and its shortened form is two syllables: JEHO. Its poetic form is one syllable: YAH and JAH. And there is no support for YAHWEH.

                                        Today we are told that the tetragrammaton or 'sacred name of God' was not pronounced out of 'reverence' for the divine name. This is a Hellenist myth and wasn't even started by Hebrew-speaking people. The tetragrammaton was spoken often inside and outside of the temple, with certain rules about when and where and why it was to be spoken. But there was no actual rule or custom against speaking it--Just rules about making sure to not speak it amiss.

                                        NOTES

                                        Upon reading this article some things stand out to me.

                                        Many claim that the divine name was not spoken and was substituted with 'qere' to avoid speaking it out of reverence for the name. And this is a lie.

                                        Anyone who reveres a name actually wants to speak it and does so with respect and pride, rather than substituting a nickname. It is when we hate someone that we refuse to speak their name or prohibit others from speaking it. For example, most of the world hates the mustache man, and invoking his name is discouraged in polite conversation.

                                        The Hebrew bible text itself repeatedly commands Israel to proclaim the divine name, not to hide it behind nicknames. Any reverence for God and his commandments would prohibit the use of 'qere' substitutions. Thus those who invented these customs were not revering God--they were dishonoring him deceitfully.

                                        So the claim that the name was not to be spoken is nonsensical religious dogma of certain mystical sects, and not historical practice of either the temple priests or the Christians who inherited the Levitical tradition after the destruction of the temple. We must remember true history: When the temple was destroyed, the surviving Jews in Jerusalem were carried off into captivity into other parts of the world by Rome. The Jews who had converted to following Jesus before the destruction of the temple had already escaped Jerusalem before the Roman siege, and carried the traditions with them, and preserved them in early Christianity. These first Christians, most of whom were Jews, had no such custom or injunction against saying the divine name, and it shows in their writings, and in their predecessors copious transliteration of the name. Their tradition was the foundation of European Christianity, which joined forces with the Sephardim to preserve the Old Testament and Hebrew language for over a millennium of years. The Masoretes properly pointed all the words, including the divine name, to preserve their pronunciations.

                                        The entire purpose of the Masoretic vowel pointings was specifically to preserve the correct pronunciation of every Hebrew word in the text, not to hide the pronunciation. There would have been a worldwide uproar in the scholarly community over such a practice as wrongly writing the divine name or mispronouncing it. The historical record is silent on such a thing ever occurring.

                                        The name Jehovah with the 'J' sound is correct ancient Hebrew pronunciation of the divine name. Just as the Sephardim scribes have preserved it all these centuries, the Christian scribes took over their tradition and continued to preserve it from the time of the reformation onward. When Tyndale rendered the name as IEHOUA, he was using the pronunciation taught by the Masoretic scribes and their Christian cohorts. It was not an 'invention' but rather a transliteration into English characters of the day.

                                        We are now at a new crossroads in history where many occultists, kabbalists, pagans, and sectarians are once again attacking the divine name and trying to cloud it with confusion and false myths. This is what liars have always done--invent stories to support their delusions. Perhaps in the coming centuries we should expect another vanguard to come and take of the tradition of preserving the name against this army of confusion.

                                        @infostorm@a.gup.pe @academicchatter@a.gup.pe @translators@a.gup.pe @theology@a.gup.pe @religion@a.gup.pe @histodons@a.gup.pe

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                                          [?]OCTADE » 🌐
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                                          Debunking the Myths of the Sacred Namers - Myth # 4 - Jehovah is Pointed with the Vowel Markings of Adonai

                                          In the linked paper, Carl D. Franklin digs deep into the history of the tetragrammaton and debunks some of the myths commonly accepted as fact. The paper is part of a series and well worth the read for anyone interested in textual criticism or translation.

                                          PDF: https://www.cbcg.org/franklin/debunking2.pdf

                                          SYNOPSIS

                                          "Is it true that the name Jehovah borrowed its vowels from Adonai?"

                                          Spoiler: No, it is not true. It is a fabrication of a false history. The pronunciation, JEHOVAH was used centuries before Galatinus, so it is impossible for him to have invented it. Moreover, there is a lack of historical evidence that medieval scholars before Galatinus accepted any pronunciation other than JEHOVAH. They all appear to have unanimously supported this one widely known pronunciation of the tetragrammaton.

                                          A lot of religious and textual myths have resulting in mass misconceptions about biblical textual history and meaning. Some of the myths misrepresent the tetragrammaton, or the name of God. This eventually led to the creation of the artificial name, Yahweh, which is not a Hebrew word, and is in fact a cleverly disguised classical Latin name for Jove. The author defrocks the Galatinus origin myth, proving the name JEHOVAH was in use long before Galatinus.

                                          The sacred name mythos is popular in some Christian and Jewish sects as well as among the Hebrew Roots movement. This paper exposes some of the false history and baseless assertions about the pronunciation of the tetragrammaton. As it turns out, the early Masoretes and some early Catholics and the later Reformers had gotten it right - JEHOVAH is the correctly preserved pronunciation of the name of God. The name was never 'lost' and it has been known all through recorded history, if even only by a few.

                                          @infostorm@a.gup.pe @academicchatter@a.gup.pe @translators@a.gup.pe @theology@a.gup.pe @religion@a.gup.pe @histodons@a.gup.pe

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                                            What do you think?

                                            pennipotentum X @spinozylvannian Chinese international student in my class was telling me about how his evangelical dad in Beijing believes that Trump was chosen by god to win the election, but that this victory is part of a larger divine plan to destroy the united states 2:57 PM - Nov 5, 2024 - 2.A1M Views

                                            Alt...pennipotentum X @spinozylvannian Chinese international student in my class was telling me about how his evangelical dad in Beijing believes that Trump was chosen by god to win the election, but that this victory is part of a larger divine plan to destroy the united states 2:57 PM - Nov 5, 2024 - 2.A1M Views