@fsf IMHO #Deltachat is what encrypted email wishes it was

Reminder: There are no accounts in the classic sense anywhere with #chatmail or #deltachat.

It's all private profiles on end user devices which co-ordinate in a #p2p fashion. Chat profiles *use* email (relay) addresses for transporting messages through a federated e2ee-restricted SMTP network.

A chat profile or chat group has zero data on the server. It's radically different from classic email servers, Whatsapp, Signal, XMPP and Matrix servers which host and control chat identity.

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Neo-spoon meme (scene from matrix movie where neo looks at a child bending a spoon which eventually tells him "there is no spoon") with the following words top: "On which server is your account?" and below the bending spoon "there is no account."

@uriel @elena

Not about #DeltaChat, which not anymore what used to be.

Delta Chat is even better than it used to be 🙄 now it even has multi-path / multi-relay support and pain-free migration of servers/addresses without even needing to create new profiles and tell everyone you changed address/server, meaning it is more resilient and powerful than most decentralized solutions out there, including the one you mention, matrix, which heavily makes you dependent in your home-server, same and worse goes for xmpp, you are pretty bound to your chosen server and in the case of XMPP if the server where you created a group goes down, your groups is gone

this just doesn't happen in Delta Chat since groups are really decentralized and totally independent of any server, meaning they are also unblockable

but besides that, Matrix and XMPP are less user-friendly and more problematic in multi-device setup, while in Delta Chat this is pain-free

also in Delta Chat now it is impossible to end up with encryption disabled in the chat, encryption is permanent, for ALL chat content and group metadata, in matrix and XMPP this is not the case, in XMPP it is super easy to end up with encryption disabled, disabling encryption is like 3 taps away on a chat 🤦‍♂️ in matrix reactions are not encrypted etc.

I'm officially one of you. Whenever I see graphics about digital sovereignty and moving away from Big Tech, I go: "well, actually" - especially when I see Signal suggested as an alternative to WhatsApp.

My first thought: Signal is pretty centralized, #DeltaChat would be a far superior alternative 🙈​🙉​🙊​

Disclaimer: I use both (Signal and DeltaChat) but I really wish I could move all my convos to @Delta@chaos.social. Slowly convincing one person at a time...

#MySoCalledSudoLife #BigTech

A note on "#deltachat is going proprietary with #chatmail relays":

1) It's all based on IETF standards, with configuration and custom integration code fully FOSS and documented at: https://chatmail.at/doc/relay/ with hundreds of permission-free deployments.

2) We know of several alternative relay implementations and deployments

3) Own servers or big email providers can be used (YMMV)

However it's fair to criticize our relentless focus on E2EE, and our moving away from email addresses as identity.

#Discord alternatives #List #OpenSource :

#PHPBB, #Discourse, #Flarum, #Prosody, #Deltachat, #Zulip, etc.

It's hard these days to find a unifying description, or know about all the people and communities involved in #deltachat #chatmail #webxdc developments. One shared sentiment probably is wanting to develop anti-authoritarian technologies and cultures around it, and being opposed to authoritarian tech policy moves in the West, chat control, age verification, prescribing Google/Apple control, enforcing digital app use etc

It's also a reason we are only posting on the fediverse bridged to bsky.

Delta Chat is a messaging platform that works over email.

Setup is similar to a email client.
Messaging is decentralized and interoperable.

Supports end-to-end encryption via PGP.
PGP encryption keys are created automatically.

Default desktop client is based on Electron.
Electron is based on the Google Chromium web browser.

Website: https://delta.chat
Mastodon: @delta

#DeltaChat #Messaging #Privacy #InfoSec #E2EE #OpenPGP #PGP #OpenSource #FOSS #CyberSecurity #Encryption #FreeSoftware

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Delta Chat logo.

Inform your friends and family about these tools.

#Briar ... https://briarproject.org

"Censorship-resistant peer-to-peer messaging that bypasses centralized servers. Connect via Bluetooth, Wi-Fi or Tor, with privacy built-in."

#Retroshare ... https://retroshare.cc

"Retroshare establish encrypted connections between you and your friends to create a network of computers, and provides various distributed services on top of it: forums, channels, chat, mail... Retroshare is fully decentralized, and designed to provide maximum security and anonymity to its users beyond direct friends. Retroshare is entirely free and open-source software. It is available on #Android, #Linux, #MacOS and #Windows. There are no hidden costs, no ads and no terms of service."

#RicochetRefresh ... https://www.ricochetrefresh.net

"Ricochet Refresh is an open-source project to allow private and anonymous instant messaging."

#OnionShare ... https://onionshare.org

"OnionShare is an open-source tool that lets you securely and anonymously share files, host websites, and chat with friends using the Tor network."

#DeltaChat ... https://delta.chat

"Delta Chat is a decentralized and secure messenger app."

#Bitmessage ... https://bitmessage.org

"Bitmessage is a P2P communications protocol used to send encrypted messages to another person or to many subscribers. It is decentralized and trustless, meaning that you need-not inherently trust any entities like root certificate authorities. It uses strong authentication which means that the sender of a message cannot be spoofed, and it aims to hide "non-content" data, like the sender and receiver of messages, from passive eavesdroppers like those running warrantless wiretapping programs."

#TorBrowser ... https://www.torproject.org/download

"Protect yourself against tracking, surveillance, and censorship."

#I2P ... https://geti2p.net

"The Invisible Internet Project (I2P) is a fully encrypted private network layer. It protects your activity and location. Every day people use the network to connect with people without worry of being tracked or their data being collected. In some cases people rely on the network when they need to be discrete or are doing sensitive work."

#Hyphanet ... https://www.hyphanet.org/

"Hyphanet is peer-to-peer network for censorship-resistant and privacy-respecting publishing and communication. The original Freenet."

#BitChan ... https://github.com/813492291816/BitChan

"BitChan is a decentralized anonymous imageboard inspired by BitBoard and built on top of Bitmessage with Tor, I2P, and GnuPG."

#DarkMX ... https://darkmx.app

"DarkMX is a new decentralized communication app that utilizes Tor hidden services to allow you to easily have an anonymous, reliable, and censorship-resistant presence on the internet. You can chat. You can share files. You can search other people's files. You can keep a contact list and send private messages to your friends. You can create your own custom .onion site, available to anyone with a Tor Browser."

#Decentralized #TOR #AntiSurveillance #Anonymity #Anonymous #Privacy #Filesharing #Networking #Communication #P2P #F2F #PeerToPeer #Censorship #AntiCensorship #FreeSpeech